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In hearing about sound-to-color synesthesia, or rather Chromesthesia1, I have always been rather jealous, and wanted to experience this unexplainable phenomenon for myself. I have read up a little bit about it, and from what I hear, it sounds like a good thing to have. However, I am still very uncertain as to what it actually is...

Image from wikipedia link on chromesthesia

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That's pretty much the best I can picture it as ; 'thinking' different colors for different notes.


My questions in regards to musical performance/practice:

  1. Does chromesthesia help when trying to find a certain note? Does it help in attaining absolute/perfect pitch?
  2. Does it make it easy to tell whether notes are in tune or not?

Regarding musical composition:

  1. Would chromesthesia make one more creative in composing? Would seeing a mix of colors in ones head help in writing music?
  2. Or, would chromesthesia make this a hard process, constricting natural musical ideas.

I don't know about you, but I can just picture someone coming up with a beautiful melody and deleting it because it uses a color they don't like... :)


Does anyone here have this ability? If so, could you then explain to me how you find sound-to-color synesthesia to be useful, and more specifically, in the settings I imagined?

If you don't happen to have this ability, please think very carefully before answering, and include many credible sources... I'm not sure how much I trust you... :)


1 Throughout this question, I am assuming that this "condition" really exists. As many people claim to have it, I don't see why it should be assumed otherwise. Also, as jjmusicnotes noted: "synesthesia not only affects my own compositional process, but has also affected historically significant composers as well. Thus this subject falls under "musical practice" which I interpret to include pedagogy - underwhich this subject may be included." Please take this into consideration before voting to close, like a few have already done...

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    I do not see what this question has to do with musical practice and performance. Synesthesia is an unusual neurological condition that might even be described as a mental illness or aberration. If you don't already have it, you can't acquire it. It's my understanding that few medical professionals accept that such a condition really exists, labeling it a figment of certain peoples' overactive imagination. So what is the use of asking "Would chromesthesia make you more aware"? I cannot take this question seriously.
    – user1044
    Oct 17, 2013 at 6:30
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    @WheatWilliams Take a look at some of Oliver Sacks' writings. I'd say that synesthesia in general is quite well-established. Whether you treat it as an aberration or just part of a range of human brain operations is largely subjective. However, I fully agree that one type of audio synesthesia or another can help or can hurt musical ability, and certainly it's not something one can "choose" to have in any case. Oct 17, 2013 at 11:54
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    @WheatWilliams - As I established in my answer, synesthesia not only affects my own compositional process, but has also affected historically significant composers as well. Thus this subject falls under "musical practice" which I interpret to include pedagogy - underwhich this subject may be included. Oct 17, 2013 at 13:43
  • I do not have synesthesia, but how do you distinguish middle C or middle A or a Cb chord in the upper registry or a Drop 2 F#13 chord. If the F chord is Blue, is it Blue in all octaves and all forms of spellings? What about half diminished 7th chords which have different names for the same notes? Also the upper and lower harmonics of a note, 2 notes, 3 notes, 4 notes etc...and how they differ between instruments and people. Synesthesia, mental illness, probably not. Is it proven in the musical sense to be a real enhancement? Not even close. The test are only gathering how many and how much alm
    – user9105
    Jan 14, 2014 at 0:12
  • Does this question presume that chromesthesia can be acquired by colouring your keys? That's like saying you can acquire synesthesia by using a different coloured pen for each letter you write. You can't just impose a neurological condition onto yourself like that. Other than this part, I think this is a very interesting question.
    – Lee White
    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:44

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I have absolute pitch and associate colors with specific keys. I have had this ability for as long as I can remember and only discovered in adolescence that others did not have it; the two are very much intertwined in terms of how I think about music. FWIW, absolute pitch runs in my family on both sides, with my mother possessing it and my paternal grandfather. Neither of them report any sort of synesthesia.

My major keys/colors map together as follows. The minor keys correspond to their major counterpart, but are without exception darker and greyer in my mind. Atonal music along the lines of Schoenberg or Stockhausen inevitably appears brilliant white; music that skirts along the edge of tonality, such as that of John Adams or Elliott Carter, varies.

  • C - brilliant red
  • C# - deep black-red (similar to the color of a blood clot)
  • D - golden brown
  • Eb - pale yellow-green
  • E - emerald green
  • F - yellow
  • F# - deep forest grey-green
  • G - gold
  • G# - greyish purple
  • A - royal blue
  • Bb - grey
  • B - brilliant purple

My synesthesia leads me to favor certain keys when I compose. For example, I have never written anything in the key of B-flat because I simply don't like it and the color is not as intense or beautiful as, say, C#, F#, C, or G, which I tend to favor. However, this leads to a chicken/egg question: do I like these keys more because the colors are stronger, or are the colors stronger because I like the keys more? I have no idea.

Synesthesia is also helpful when tuning instruments. When tuning my guitar, for example, I know there's a certain richness I associate with the golden color of G that just isn't there until I've gotten the G string just right. Also interesting is the fact that when I tune the A string, I know the color of the "proper" A440, but my ear prefers a sharper A442. The color is more vivid this way, even though it's technically "incorrect". When my guitar is flat, the color is still there but loses its vividness in my mind. It is not clear to me how having synesthesia would make absolute pitch easier to attain.

The biggest drawback I can think of to synesthesia/absolute pitch is the difficulty of transposing. It is virtually impossible for me to play a keyboard with the "transpose" setting on; playing middle C and hearing a B come out is jarring to the point of being completely disabling. A lesser problem is tunings on a guitar; I have to learn each tuning as a completely different instrument and takes me noticeably longer than someone without absolute pitch.

I hope this is helpful; if I can clarify anything, please let me know.

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  • Fascinating. A question - do you see all octaves of a note the same colour or are they different?
    – Mr. Boy
    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:08
  • BTW I don't think the keyboard-transpose difficulty is necessarily due to your condition, I know a few good pianists who feel the same way and attribute it to having [near-]perfect pitch.
    – Mr. Boy
    Jan 27, 2015 at 9:09
  • I can attest to that, @Mr.Boy. I do not have pitch, but I am absolutely unable to play a song in a key of which I know it is incorrect. Once I have the key figured out, I can't play the song in any other key.
    – Lee White
    Jan 27, 2015 at 16:14
  • @LeeWhite - interesting. How do you know which is the 'correct' key for a song? The original written key may well differ from that of the first/most popular recording, and subsequent keys that are different from those are often used. Elvis, for example, lowered a lot of his keys later in life. So, were they then non-authentic songs? I often play a particular tune in a particular key, but that's only because I've learnt it that way, and am reluctant to re-learn a complex song in another key. But if a singer asked, it would have to be done!
    – Tim
    Jun 17, 2016 at 8:54
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There are many different types of synesthesia, and it is only recently that it has been taken seriously as psychological phenomena. For anyone who is unfamiliar (or too bored to click the links in the OP's question,) synesthesia is essentially where a person's brain is hard-wired to experience sensory stimulation in multiple, simultaneous ways.

For example, some people associate colors with letters and numbers, some people hear colors, and others taste colors - my grandfather tastes green beans whenever he hears the word "green" and experiences similar connections with other colors.

Not much is known exactly about synesthesia due to lack of knowledge about how the brain works and the limited amount of scholarly research undertaken, however, synesthesia typically runs in families (my grandfather, my mother, and myself, for example.) It is also inconsistent between people in terms of color association and degree of correlation (some people experience it more vividly than others.) In the present state of understanding, it is not considered for it to be possible to teach.

Notable composers such as Scriabin and Messiaen admitted to having synesthesia - the former even adamant about constructing what he called a "light organ" that would light up the corresponding colored lights with the appropriate notes so that everyone could see music the way he saw music.


To answer your questions:

Seeing as I like to 'compose' music, I was wondering how useful this would actually be when writing a song? Would it make me more imaginative and creative, or would it perhaps be more of a curse?

I personally use it / notice it the most when I'm improvising - especially on piano. Of all the keys I prefer f# minor because to me, it offers the most beautiful colors. Sometimes it influences my compositional choices, but rarely. If anything, it's actually made me more indifferent to pitch choice because as I experience writing the music, pitches all seem incidental.

The only thing that limits your ability to be creative is the type of experiences you've had and your willingness to find new solutions.

Would chromesthesia make you more aware as to if you are in tune or not? ('Oops, that was the wrong shade of green') Or even better, would it make perfect-pitch easy to attain?

To my knowledge, there is no known documented evidence of composers using synesthesia to differentiate between gradations of intonation. Some composers have incredibly, incredibly sensitive ears (able to hear if something is 1-2 cents out of tune!) but their sensitivity was not aided by synesthesia.

With respect to "perfect-pitch", I just want to clarify here that if you can match pitch (i.e. sing in tune,) then you have "perfect-pitch." What you're actually referring to is absolute pitch - the ability to recall or produce any pitch at will without prompting.

In my experience, no. There are "perfect-pitch" courses out there that train you to "hear colors" and for me, I found it confusing because I didn't agree on the color choices, so it was actually detrimental for me personally. Having absolute pitch doesn't make a good composer anymore than having a the best microphone or guitar make you the best vocalist or guitarist. True skill comes from relentless, dogged determination to master countless exercises in problem solving, self-discipline, and the unwavering focus of continual self-improvement.

Other than that, to me, your keyboard's colors are wrong.

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  • Wikipedia and my music encylopedia disagree: perfect == absolute, and "relative" refers to matching pitch. Otherwise, very well written response. Oct 17, 2013 at 11:55
  • @CarlWitthoft - you know, in the early part of the 20th century, doctors advocated smoking because everyone thought it was either good for your or not harmful. We've had this discussion long ago in a different question. I can't take wikipedia as a seriously cited source, and your musical encyclopedia definitions need to be updated / edited. Oct 17, 2013 at 13:49
  • @jjmusicnotes OK, then can you cite sources for your definitions? I'm happy to use them over wiki. Oct 17, 2013 at 15:04
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I am 16 and I have chromesthesia, the type of synesthesia being discussed where I hear sounds and see colors. I think it might be of interest to you to learn that this is genetic in my family (my father and my paternal grandmother and myself) and we all have the same colors for the same notes or songs. If it matters to you which are which this is it:

  • A = bright red
  • B = lighter blue
  • C = very very light yellow or clear
  • D = darker blue
  • E = very bright yellow
  • F = lighter green
  • G = darker green

(the minors are just a darker/ greyer version of these) We all have absolute pitch but not perfect pitch, but I don't know how much the colors have to do with that. In regards to composing, I don't necessarily use the colors, they're just kind of there, although I do see how you could use them. I don't think they would prevent you from putting any phrases together because the colors don't really clash, they just kind of coexist.

When I am playing the piano or any other instrument, it is very apparent to me if I play a note with even a half step difference because it changes the whole color and feel of the chord.

I was born with this condition, as were my dad and grandmother. My grandmother was an artist and taught music and my dad is a professional successful conductor and trombone player, so I believe that synesthetic people have more of an inclination to the arts. I have a real problem with remembering my right and left, especially when driving, but not a lot of problems with numbers.

Hope this helped you!

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  • Hey thanks for the answer. I find it very interesting that it seems to be genetic in your family and that you all have the same colors... However, I'm wondering how you don't have perfect pitch? I thought if you see colors for notes, you would easily be able to find the notes you want? Jan 27, 2015 at 5:33
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    Hmmm... Colour discrimination varies a lot from person to person, as does pitch discrimination. You would have to posit a one-to-one correspondence between a person's (different) limits of discrimination for the two, and that is problematical. How does colour line up against sound? By the musical octave or along the continuum of sound frequencies? Positive or negative correlation to frequency? Even allowing for octave duplication, we're seeing islands of blue between red and yellow - the synaesthetes are not experiencing a continuum of colour frequencies corresponding to rising pitch.
    – user16935
    Jan 27, 2015 at 8:03
  • SuperMusicman, it's hard to discriminate between exact flat or sharp because although the color does have slightly different... textures I guess it's still the same color. However if you tell me to sing a red I can sing an A with no reference note.
    – Madeline
    Jan 29, 2015 at 21:41
  • Patrx2, I'm not even sure what all of those words mean, are you asking a question? If so could you dumb it down a little if you would like an answer?
    – Madeline
    Jan 29, 2015 at 21:43
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It was said that Hendrix experienced it but he wasn't born with it. apparently it was induced by lots of LSD, which probably isn't a good thing. the E7#9 chord was referred to as the purple chord, hence purple haze.

I remember reading about Synesthesia a couple of years back and its do do with the sensory connections in the brain, we tend to have different sections of the brain dedicated to different sensory activities. As far as i can gather, synesthesia is when two or more different sensory areas of the brain have inexplicably strong links and in turn, the two senses turn into one and the same.

there are reports of people hearing numbers, tasting names and seeing sounds, its all subjective and while some people might have the same type of synesthesia, they might experience coloured sounds differently.

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I have this as well, but strangely enough it's more associated with composers than keys. I have no idea why. Mozart is generally red. Chopin is deep blue, with some exceptions: for example the Ab Polonaise is red. Brahms is green. Schumann and Liszt are both purple. Beethoven has different colors for different pieces. Bach is often white, the only one I get white with. The only orange composer is Grieg. Haendel is yellow, and so is Haydn. Funny. The only time I really found it of much use was in college when we were doing "guess the composer" exam questions. I could sometimes use it to tell similar composers apart.

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I have a mild form where I assign colors to numbers, letters, and combinations of those. I don't actually see every letter in a different color but if someone told me to paint a letter 'i' I would definitely go for white. A green 'i', for example, would look very wrong.

I mostly use it (usually subconsciously) as a memory aid. When performing, I can for example remember that the next chord is dark forest green, thus I have to play a F# minor chord. Or the next section is bright yellow and therefore in the key of E major. It has nothing to do with sound, though. For example E flat is a kind of yellow whereas D sharp is a kind of red. It's still pretty useful; for other things, too, like remembering dates.

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A guy who has done a lot of research into this can be found at www.vichyland.com
I occasionally have pupils who experience these phenomena, but it's very rare, and comes in many different forms. More often, something like a major chord evokes happy, whilst a minor one evokes sad. This is a more general thing, but you are asking about very specific things.

Sometimes there may be something of a memory throwback - A smell - perfume,maybe, reminds you of the red dress your partner wore the first time that perfume was used. Thus smell=colour.The whole thing is, in my opinion,very, very personal, and, as such, cannot be used to any great purpose, although it's fascinating, and can be harnessed as a teaching tool :" a major 7th sound makes me feel dreamy".

However, to me it's all black and white...

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  • Synesthesia has little to do with associations between stimulus and how they make you feel. Ol' factory senses are the strongest memory markers, so your brain naturally makes learned correlations. This is not synesthesia. Synesthesia is saying, "the letter "A" is red, "B" is black, "C" is white because you perceive those letters that way - and you are consistent with those colors every time because you can't change the way you perceive letters and numbers. Oct 17, 2013 at 13:47
  • @jjm. Have you done the acid test, and had someone play a note, and you say, for example, it's red, so it's F#. Of course, if absolute pitch is available, it would muddy the waters.
    – Tim
    Oct 17, 2013 at 15:47
  • That particular test would not work for me as I do not experience sound in that way (although other synesthetes do.) If you were to ask me what color F major was, I would say "Blue" and if you asked me again in 10 years, I would still say "Blue." Oct 18, 2013 at 0:39
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In my case, I never realized other people didn't have it. I am an audio guy. I mold sounds into stereo. I use my gift to create dimensions in sound. I can recognize color and frequencies in the space, and I find a relationship between the fundamentals and harmonics.

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I am author of the site ,, Synesthesia interactive music visualization", which is at least good visible in Internet . Now I think that instead synesthesia music visualization must take in bearings such firmly asserted phenomena as conditional reflex, prediction,expectation, satisfaction. In a matter of fact namely these phenomena are referred to my program. Conditional reflex is formation of connection between phenomena of different senses. This connection provides prediction of secondary one. If music visualization program is built so that, for example, movement of melody calls movement of same direction in the visualization picture then by observation of such visualization predictions and pleasant feelings from their fulfillment arise.

Creetings Yuri Vilenkin

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I am a chromesthete, but a fairly weak one as far as I can tell. Colors only present themselves with musical sounds (yes, this influences what I define as "music"), and I have yet to derive a particular pattern. I'm fairly certain it has something to do with chord structure and overtones, but I am not completely sure. I have anxiety and PTSD so my state of mind can greatly influence the extent of what I see, and whether or not it is overwhelming and discernible. I also have acute hyperacousis due to viral activity, making my auditory senses a right mess. Anyway, I find that it does help me remember music- if I can remember the way the music looks I can replicate it easier. It works more with singing than playing for me. I also write music and the reason I love to write it is so I can take the notes and turn them into colors I want to see. Maybe my chords are strange because of that, but I love what I write. I have not found that it helps with identification of structures. I can tell if I've heard something before, but not always what it is. I am very good at tuning two instruments together by ear, however, as I just point one of them up or down until the two are coordinated.

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