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I still don't get rules of our community (stackoverlow is more friendly on best-practises). But I really want to know what pedals do bands using for post-rock music?

Tons of bands have simillar sound of guitar I want to know how this sound is produced (pedal configuration) and which pedals are used. I know some basic background like: Boss Digital reverb, Boss Digital Delay, Electro Harmonix Memory Man...what else? what's most common configuration of them?

Example bands: Caspian, Mono, Godspeed, Russian Circles.

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Is this objective enough??! Because god-damned I really wanna know answer HOW TO DO THIS AWESOME SOUND! Tell me what should I fix in question to get my answers. (moderators you can freely edit a question if you want) and PLEASE DON'T CLOSE THIS!!!! – Anonymous Jan 24 '11 at 1:14
Can you think of a better way of expressing yourself than that comment? Also, your question remains subjective unless there are documented examples of pedal use for your songs in question. Without those the questions get answered with opinions and guesses. – Anonymous Jan 24 '11 at 2:53
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We never claimed that subjective questions were horrible abominations that should never be asked. blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective – Anonymous Jan 24 '11 at 8:30
There are no documented features, who the hell will document tones of genres?? I was on two post-rock band lives and I saw that they where using same pedals. Different guitars and amps, and getting same sound. So a pattern of post-rock tone does exist, especially in bands I mentioned in topic. That means they using same technique and that means that bands I hear from recors which sounds the same, uses same technique too, and that means that someone who play post-rock in this world, using same pattern too, so I want to get this secret out of them. – Anonymous Jan 24 '11 at 13:22
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Don't assume that great guitar sound is a result of a particular combination of pedals, amps, guitars, strings, picks, because what we see repeatedly is that a guitarist's sound comes from their fingers and attitude. They can pick up to a guitar, plug it in, and within seconds sound the same as they would with their regular equipment. People have said that about Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Clapton, and Beck. Even as they've transitioned from one style of amp to another, across guitar brands, etc, they are still recognizable. The effects make a lot less difference than you'd expect. – Anonymous Jan 25 '11 at 0:35
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Pedals won't get you 100% there. Lots of people obsess over gear thinking that "this badass Zvex pedal will make me sound like Matt Bellamy." While artists tend to have a standard arsenal for particular genre's of music, your technique is really what makes your music shine. I spent years trying to nail down "my sound" and I ended up disappointed with nearly every pedal I purchased in an effort to get there. But enough banter, I can give you some basic ideas.

Most Post-Rock sounds have lots of gain. A pedal won't get you lots, and lots, of gain in the context that you want it to without sounding artificial or blatty. You need a badass amp (triple Rec or better), active pickups, a compressor, and mad power chord chugging skills. That's about it. Sick post-rock rigs are relatively easy to build with a couple thousand dollars. If you want an econo-rig, well you can get there too. Visit your local guitar center and go find the Blackstar section and grab a Schecter or something comparable. DISCLAIMER: Blackstar fans don't hate. I know they have some higher end stuff too.

As for delays, you listed basic industry standards that work across genres. For post-rock you probably don't want anything too analog (although you did list a Memory Man), so you could go with the Replica (T-Rex), DD-7 (Boss), or any decent digital delay.

Modulation is a great way to add a little colour to your tone. Stone Temple Pilots used this religiously and pulled it off pretty well. Jerry Cantrell snuck a pre-gain phaser into some of his guitar work to fatten up the tone--and that worked really well too. I know these bands aren't really post rock, but I don't think anyone can argue that they don't have influence--and these are all industry strategies that tend to span genres.

Compression is nice, but not entirely needed. Most heavy gain amps will compress themselves when dimed, and it's highly likely that any serious compression occurs post-production. Still might be a good thing to consider, but make sure you know how to use one. Lots of people get frustrated with compressors because they don't entirely understand what they do and consequently how to use them.

In closing I'd suspect that a Post-Rock band's trademark sound is achieved via a standard pattern of pedals, their guitar/amplifier combination, and however the production house EQ's them--which honestly tends to be true for most genres these days.

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Thnx for sharing great your knowledge. That's what I wanted. Would be great to have similar comment about my mentioned bands. – Anonymous Jan 24 '11 at 13:23
I'm concerned about this answer because it is misleading. I think the answerer mistook post rock for some other "normal" rock genre. – Tyler Bailey Mar 14 at 18:37

You're going to want:

  • Delay
  • Compressor
  • Distortion
  • Reverb

These four are pretty basic Post-Rock staples.

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Woudln't you say that those are basic staples of any genre? – Jduv Jan 24 '11 at 14:42
Infact yes, this is basics, but without pedal models, it's a little bit useless. Anyway thnx for "compressor", haven't even thought about this. – Anonymous Jan 24 '11 at 15:03
basic staples of any genre... No. – Anonymous Jan 25 '11 at 12:38
@Jduv - no I wouldn't. For example, 'acoustic rock' is a genre. @holms - Compressors are often overlooked but they do such a great job of modifying the sound. – Anonymous Jan 25 '11 at 14:56
@divided point taken. – Jduv Jan 29 '11 at 15:47

You can find online a lot of peoples rig's... youtube, guitargeek, guitar-rigs, etc.. A lot of the heavy sound is due to amps that have several high gain stages with a lot of effects(verb, compression, delay, etc..). Not too much and not too little. Getting good guitar sounds takes just as much work as learning the guitar... specially with tube amps. Not so much with digital but digital generally doesn't have the feel but it can be easier to get very cool modern sounds with them in some cases(the line 6 HD 147 has some awesome high gain presets).

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As far as pedals go: Line 6 DL4, Loop stations such as BOSS RC-30 or RC-50 (russian circles use this a lot as they're a trio), Boss digital Delay (DD3 or DD6), and shit tones of reverb.

I hear lots of guys using expression pedals, like digitech whammy, and on the guitar side of things there are a lot of tele's out there; my Thinline Deluxe has a pretty amazing clean tone, and the partial hollow body definitely gives it a warmer more expansive sound.

Yes, peoples playing styles shine through whatever gear they're using but for genres like post-rock where many times the instruments are creating soundscapes rather than steely-dan licks, pedals and effects are going to help produce the types of sounds that are going to expand the sonic possibilities of the instrument beyond just a guitar and amp set up.

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