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I am currently looking at this tune but I'm a bit confused by a part of the progression.

It seems to be using chords built mostly from the C# harmonic minor scale.

So, my current understanding tells me we could use:

  • C#min
  • D#min
  • EMaj
  • F#min
  • G#Maj
  • AMaj
  • CMin

Or extending versions of these (eg G#7)

However, at one point, it goes:

C#m, A7, A13, D/F#, Ddim.

Can anyone help me understand what is going on here?

I thought perhaps the A7 or A13 would be followed by a Dmin (secondary dominant) but is doesn't seem to be the case.

Why do the D/F# and Ddim work?

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks.

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I'm not sure I understand the question - are you asking why the chord chosen isn't the one you expected? That seems to be a tricky one to answer... :-) –  Dr Mayhem Oct 31 '12 at 22:52
    
Updated question slightly –  Dan Oct 31 '12 at 23:03
    
That makes more sense - upvoted –  Dr Mayhem Oct 31 '12 at 23:04
    
Your chord list for Harmonic minor diatonic chords is Wrong. Three of the chords contain non diatonic notes –  Fergus Feb 20 at 20:54
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You found the one unexpected chord.

See here: http://bostonglobe.com/ideas/2012/07/07/when-computers-listen-music-what-they-hear-when-computers-listen-music-what-they-hear/hzdqdfgsIgEPiWPRe66U8J/story.html

Using Music21, which was designed by Michael Cuthbert and his MIT colleague Christopher Ariza, Harvard physics doctoral student Douglas Mason analyzed Beatles songs, running more than 100 of them under the microscope and discovering that the majority of them were built around one—and only one—highly unexpected chord. “You expect C to appear in a song in the key of C, but you wouldn’t expect a chord that almost never appears in a song in C, like E flat, because it’s really out of key. But the Beatles did stuff like that all the time,” said Mason. “They’ll have a song in major but they’ll bring in a chord from the minor key, and that chord will act as an anchor for the whole song.

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Really interesting. Any ideas on why it "works"? –  Matthew Read Nov 2 '12 at 16:52
    
@Read. I once read that in ancient China they would make a temple with all columns identical and one upside down. The idea is that having a clear symmetry slightly broken is more pleasant than perfect symmetry. In the same way, it is pleasant to have chaos or apparent chaos in which a symmetry is barely seen. It is a general aesthetic principle that works in all forms of art. –  ABC Jun 14 '13 at 13:05
    
There is nothing unexpected about that chord. Google Borrowed chords. The bIII has been borrowed from the parallel minor key for centuries. –  Fergus Feb 20 at 20:18
    
Unexpected like finding a Jalapeño pepper in your hot fudge sundae, but not unexpected to someone who eats chicken with Mexican chocolate mole sauce on top. –  Mark Lutton Feb 25 at 4:05
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However, at one point, it goes:

C#m, A7, A13, D/F#, Ddim.

Can anyone help me understand what is going on here?

The A7 seems to be functioning as a tritone substitute for D#7 which would pull to the G#7 dominant of the C#m key.

Try playing these variations:

  • C#m A7 G#7 C#m

  • C#m D#7 G#7 C#m

  • C#m A#o7 G#7 C#m

A7, D#7 and A#o7 all share the G-C# tritone. Approaching the dominant of a minor key with a diminished harmony (the third example) is common in classical music.

But in this tune, it never completes toward the G#. Instead we are given a signal that it's going in a different direction: the harmony lingers on A, following A7 with A13, perhaps to help shake off our memory of A7's remote connection to C#m, and that dominant becomes a pivot to go to D instead.

It doesn't really matter whether it is a major or minor D at that point; the A13 could go to either.

Why the D works is that it provides a path back to the C#m key again.

What is possibly going on here is that the D functions as a subdominant of G#m A, whose relative minor key is F#m. This D subdominant of A functions with respect to F#m similarly to how F is related to Am in the key of C.[2014-2-19 edit] The diminished chord then works as a substitute for C#7 or E7, the dominants of F#m and its relative major A, respectively. It shares three notes with both of these.

Compare these:

  • D Ddim C#m F#m (like F Fdim Em Am in C major! Notes of Fdim are in the Phrygian mode of A harmonic/melodic minor)

  • D E7 C#m F#m (like F G7 Em Am)

  • D C#7 C#m F#m (like F E7 Em Am)

But we don't have a F#m. It is C# that is targeted, seemingly as the root of the Phrygian mode of F#m/AMaj. So D is actually IIb: something like the Phrygian II or Neapolitan.

Compare to the very bold Neapolitan cadence (IIb-V-I).

  • D G# C#m (The Neapolitan D should typically be in a 6th inversion)

This is like F B Em.

The Ddim choice is interesting. It creates a very soft transition compared to the bolder choices of E7 or C#7 because it stays almost entirely in that Phrygian scale.

So the hypothesis is that the path from the D rooted tonality back to C# via the Ddim is something like the Phrygian-based Neapolitan IIb-V-I device, but with IIb dim substituting for the V.

From the top:

C#m, A7, A13, D/F#, Ddim, C#m

Im (IIb7:G#) (V13:D) (IIb:C#) (IIbdim:C#) Im

From the C#m to the A7 is like the familiar Am to F in C major, but with F altered to a dominant. This A7 behaves as a tritone substitute that wants to pull half a step down to G#, but instead it lingers, and turns into a secondary dominant pulling to the D root, and then we have that aforementioned path back to C#.

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This is one of my favorite Beatles pieces. I think it has the best harmony in a POP song, along with God Only Knows by Beach Boys, and Julia in the White Album. I'll give it a try with simplified chords. I am not an expert, but this is how I see it:

Verse is functionally some kind of Aminors mixture:

Am F7 E7 F(7) Am F9 (asks for a E7)

so

A B C D (Eb-E) F (G-G#)

I think it's based in D-Eb-E bass-pivot-tone over A, and this G/G# mutations are only chromatically changed in order to provide some harmony colour to that bass, using traditionally rules eventually no matter the key. IT sounds to me a bit like a chromatic bassline James Bond theme or Is there anybody out there by Pink Floyd.

At a given moment so, we can have the feeling of natural minor(E-G), [harmonic diminished(Eb-G#), ] harmonic minor(E-G#), [natural minor(E-G), ] melodic minor (Eb-G)

It has the flavour of the typical blues-funky progression:

Im7-V7-bVI7-V7

Am7 D7 F7 E7 

For the second part, I think the thing is that root modulates subtly half step forward, so it's now Bb, the rest of the central structure remains almost the same that's why it fits

A->Bb B C D (Eb-E) F (G-G#)

and again harmonized bass is played following the descending over from E-Eb with D-(C#)-C (like ending of Blackbird phrase), so after a C# (Bb-C#) we can move the root from Bb to A again and so:

  • If we move half step back C# we got an Am (A-C) chord that sets Am key again
  • If we move half step forward C# we got a D (D-A) chord that allows stablishing A as A MAJOR key, it works in my ears as a piccardy third

Furthermore A major contains E7, which is the final chord, and works as a V7 pivot for coming back to A minor

A -G#-A
.....B- C
C#-D...
E -E -E

i.e

Bb Bbm/Bº (D E7)

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