types of scales, coupled with sets of characteristic melodic behaviors.

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Song written in Locrian of C

How would I write a song in Locrian of C. In sheet music would that be written in the key of C. Or would I write it in B minor / major? If B, I'm guessing the way I would choose between the minor and ...
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Why are there only five diatonic scale forms if there are 7 modes? not including hypo- modes

I"m learning diatonics on guitar finally, and there are just some theory based confusions I'm having with these things, if anyone could explain it'd be as huge help Thank you
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Key of a Song in Modes

If I'm playing a song in Dorian D would I say that the song is in the key of C? Or is the song in the key of D, cause that my true tonic? I guess the question can be boiled down to, is the tonic the ...
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What is the tonic of a musical mode

Let's say I'm playing Dorian D mode. Is my tonic C? cause dorian mode is derived from the diatonic scale of C. Or is my tonic D cause my tonal center is in D?
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Do modes exist in the harmonic / melodic minor scales?

I'm trying to get my head around modes and the tonal center. In my understanding the natural minor scale is the same as the Aeolian mode. However, when considering the mix-up that happens in the ...
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Modal approach to soloing over this piece?

Is my approach for creating a melody over this harmony I have written theoretically correct? Harmony: (KEY OF A) F#m F#sus4 C#m C#msus4 Bm Bsus4 AMaj7 Now lets just take a really straight approach ...
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Soloing in Harold Mabern's Edward Lee

I'm looking at the song "Edward Lee" by Harold Mabern, Jr. (as it's presented in The Real Easy Book in C) and I'm trying to understand how to apply scales approach to soloing over its chords. There ...
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What is the difference between C major and C Ionian?

To my understanding, C major is the same as C ionian, because: C major consists of the notes C, D, E, F, G, A, B, (C) in this order. C ionian consists of the notes C, D, E, F, G, A, B, (C) in this ...
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Do people who don't study modes improvise the same as those who do?

Reading/watching interviews with some noted jazz/rock musicians (e.g., Jimmy Bruno), when asked about modes they will disavow themselves of bothering to study modes because doing so is, to their way ...
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What does “of the first/second/third/etc. tone” mean in Iberian keyboard music?

For example, "Tiento de 5° tono" - The fifth tone? Mixolydian? I'm not sure about whether "tono" refers to a scale mode because the music is scattered with accidentals that don't seem to follow the ...
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Third Degree On Major [duplicate]

Compared to a major scale, what mode starts on scale degree three? I think it is minor but I do not know.
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Chord progression analysis

In the song "If You Have To Ask" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers there is this instrumental funk interlude with a bunch of seventh and ninth chords and I want to understand this progression more by ...
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Cadences for Modes

For each of the modes, is there a certain chord that goes before the targeted I or i chord? For instance, it seems in the Phrygian mode that II to i is a fairly strong progression. In Ionian, ...
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Gregorian modes in Renaissance music (with Cabezón's 'Tiento del Cuarto Tono' as an example)

I'd like to ask a question on how Gregorian modes were transformed during Renaissance using a piece of Antonio de Cabezón as an example. His 'Tiento del Cuarto Tono' is written in mode 4, which is, as ...
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Is the history of scales in Cooke's “Mastering Scales” an accurate history?

I was using Cooke's "Mastering Scales" just to get piano fingerings. But, I see that it also contains a history of scales. Is this an accurate history, especially the sections about the old church ...
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Is I-V-vi-IV not tonal compared to passamezzo moderno/antico?

I'm asking this using tonal in the sense it was described in a highly voted best answer I found with search on topic of tonal vs modal. I interpret what is said in it that tonality implies common ...
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How do you modulate between modes?

I'm confused about how to switch modes in song. When you switch modes, will it switch like this (C Ionian -> C Mixolydian) or like this (C Ionian -> G Mixolydian)? Also, how will you formulate chords ...
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Is F Lydian mode in the “key” of C Major?

I would assume that many would agree that if we have a piece of music and there are no sharps or flats in the key signature that in most cases (if not all) the piece would be considered in the key of ...
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Is the usage of scales (modes) in jazz music common practice?

A friend of mine told me that the usage of scales or modes in jazz music is not common. Even I heard myself in a Miles Davis interview that jazz is a tradition. So here are two questions basically: Is ...
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Why are major and minor harmonies multiple orders of magnitude more common than modal harmony? [duplicate]

At least for Western music of the past 300 years, it has been far more common for music to have major or minor scales as their basis of harmony, as opposed to a modal harmony. Is there a reason modal ...
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Confusion about using scales and modes together in a solo?

Ok so my music theory knowledge is limited. I have been playing guitar for a couple of years now, mostly by ear and I often struggle in applying theory. While writing a solo I wondered whether I ...
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confused about modes and the proper way to use them in my playing

I was wondering if someone could explain to me the correct way to play and use modes. some websites that I use to teach myself about them say that (in relation to C major) the Dorian would simply be: ...
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What is the scale played on this chord progression?

I'm trying to figure out one jazz improvisation on this chord progression (Sunny - Bobby Hebb) Am7 Gm7 C9 Fmaj7 Bm7b5 E7b9 So as the chords go Am7, Gm7 - C9 the improvisation starts in Am ...
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Why does the chord progression Gmaj - F#maj - Amaj sound the way it does?

I really like the chord progression Gmaj - F#maj - Amaj ... (I think it can be written I, VII, II)? While all the chords are major, there is some sadness about it. What is the story behind this ...
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I, (II), III major chord progression?

In Under the Bridge by Red Hot Chili Peppers, the introduction alternates between D and F# chords, with an E in between as a passing chord in some cases. There is also a g# passing note played over ...
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What is the name for the scale that is Aeolian with a lowered root?

This track at the beginning has some kind of an augmented scale. The first sounds I hear are C, D#, G#, E, A, F#. While analyzing it to give it as least as possible ...
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Determining closest key when primary contributing factors are shared among keys

Given a construct of intervals as follows: 1,#2,3,4,5,6,b7 (Dominant #2 first position) For the purpose of general notation, as the #2 is equivalent to a b3 and the 3rd is still present, would this ...
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What is the melodic minor scale with a flattened 5 called?

I can't find the answer anywhere on the internet. Except for that it can be seen as a whole-half scale with the sixth note left out. However this explanation doesn't satisfy my desire for an official ...
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Name for scale contain the notes C, D, E, F G#, A, A#

Is this an actual scale mode, like Phrygian, Locrian, etc, or is it just a constructed scale? C, D, E, F G#, A, A# (C) So, root, major second, major third, perfect forth, augmented fifth, major ...
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Double Harmonic (Ultraphrygian) Examples

Around 2 years ago i accidentally discovered Phrygian #3 #7 while jamming and found out with some research, that it apears to be called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_harmonic_scale. Since then ...
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Why does the minor scale have modes?

My knowledge of music theory is very limited at the moment. I'm in the process of learning about scales and modes. I've learned that the major scale has a mode for every degree of the scale. The 6th ...
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Why is the Phrygian Dominant Scale thusly named?

I recently started experimenting with the Phrygian dominant scale. As I understand, it is the 5th mode of a harmonic minor scale. For example an A Phrygian Dominant consists of the notes A-Bb-C#-D-...
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How to improvise chord progressions?

I know how to make a chord progression, but when playing in a certain mode, how can I know instantly which chord is the ii and which chord is V, etc?
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Difference between Modality, Tonality and Chord-naming conventions in a more practical way?

There is a lot of very valuable information about these terms that I have been reading lately - inline on SE and on other places on the web: What's the difference between "modal music"...
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How did the plagal modes differ from their authentic counterpart in practice?

In the traditional modal system there were eight modes. Four that were authentic and four were plagal. These modes are depicted below: Based on the description of the modes the final note of the ...
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What mode consists of the note G A Bb C Db E F G?

I was playing random scales . I came to a strange nice sounding mode,but could not find out what it's name theoretically. (Even I could not find a tonic sounding in it) The scale/mode notes are : G ...
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Modes: More complicated than it seems?

I've been playing guitar for almost 12 years now. I had never really gotten into what is described as 'modal playing'; I tried years ago and it seemed so hopelessly complicated that I abandoned it. ...
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In Fux's Gradus ad Parnassum, why is the B always flat in the exercises done in the F mode?

In Fux's Gradus ad Parnassum, when in the F mode (lydian), the B is always flat, at least in the first and second species examples. The cantus firmus proposed by master Aloys avoids the note ...
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How to play a Pentatonic Major using a Pentatonic Minor 3 octave shape

Ok, so the : C Major Pentatonic and the A Minor Pentatonic are supposed to be the same stuff. But I'm unsure how that happens theoretically. (Apart from the obvious fact that they have the ...
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Tonality of modes?

With the basic modes like phrygian, Lydian etc, the modes with the same notes as C major ( so no flats or sharps) how do they sound different from a major or minor scale.( this is like E phrygian).
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Phrygian dominant scale with a major seventh

The Phrygian dominant scale with a major seventh instead of a minor seventh is formed by: a root a minor second a major third a fourth a fifth a minor sixth a major seventh. My questions are: ...
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Scales in modal versus tonal music

When tonal music replaced modal music, why were 6 of the 8 scales (modes) used in modal music abandoned in favor of only two, major and minor? Superficially this would look like a reduction in the ...
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Altered Dorian scale ( Misheberak scale or Ukrainian Dorian scale)

First of all, thanks to everyone for this great web site . I have a question about Altered Dorian scale (Misheberak scale,Ukrainian Dorian scale) C Altered Dorian Scale : C D Eb F# G A Bb. A ...
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How would you go about writing a a chord progression properly using the circle of fifths in the phrygian mode?

My question is: How would you go about writing a a chord progression properly using the circle of fifths in the Phrygian mode? I have seen many discuss the circle of fifths using Majors and minors but ...
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Locrian Harmony

I like utilizing modes in my the pieces I write, but there is one mode I've never been able to fully grasp and utilize and that is the Locrian mode. The chords that naturally occur in the Locrian ...
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How can I identify Gregorian modes in Bach music?

I'm learning these Gregorian modes things and I'm trying to identify these modes in a Bach music, Invention 8 F Major, for example: The music starts at F in Ionian mode. But I think It changes when ...
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What are the official modes from Ionian to Locrian?

I am having some confusion is respects to the formal definition of what the various modes are. I know that their defined in relation to their scale, however, I've come to realise this may not be best ...
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Is Dudley Moore's Bedazzled in A Phrygian?

This song (YouTube) is one of the strangest pieces of music I've heard, with a long "A" pedal bass and a huge variety of crazy harmonies on top (my transcription), including lots of tritones. Is ...
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“The Simpsons” main theme

http://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/danny-elfman/the-simpsons-main-title-theme how did the theme go from C lydian to B lydian to E lydian to C lydian to Db lyian? how did they (modulate) ...
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How to make C lydian not sound like G ionian?

What are some concrete melodic and harmonic tools to establish the correct tonic center in a lydian melody? The reason for asking about lydian specifically is that there is no minor seventh for the ...