Numeric ratio indicating the subdivision of measures according to groups of beats

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Is there any real-world difference between time signatures such as 4/4 and 8/8?

These days I pretty much play everything by ear, but was originally trained in strathspey and reel violin so realise I should know the answer to this, but I can't remember what, if any, the practical ...
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(1/√π)/√⅔ as a time signature?

I recently found this article on wikipedia about lists of musical works in unusual time signatures and the first unusual time signature is (1/√π)/√⅔. I looked up the piece that was listed as having ...
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Is there a difference between 2/4 and 4/4

I cannot figure out the actual difference between these two beats. Isn't it sufficient to have only 2/4 (or 4/4 )?
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Is there any practical difference between 3/4 and 3/8 time?

Is there any practical difference between 4/4 and 8/8? regards a common and unusual time signature; both 3/4 and 3/8 time are pretty common. What difference in performance is implied in the the ...
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What is the “theory” behind “odd time signatures”?

There are a number of bands, Genesis, The Police, Crack the Sky, Gentle Giant, that have all incorporated unusual time signatures as their core sound - some entire "pop"songs, "Ordinary World - Duran ...
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Tips on counting and playing odd time signatures

I'm pretty interested in learning, composing and playing along to songs using odd time signatures (3/4, 5/4, 7/8, ...) and I'd like some advice on how to wrap my head around all this stuff. For ...
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When practicing a song with frequently changing time signatures, what is the best way to count in?

My percussion ensemble is working on a song with different time signatures, i.e. it is constantly changing between 4/4, 7/8, 5/16 and so on. During the rehearsals, we sometimes want to start somewhere ...
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C in Treble or Bass Clef

I see a 'C' like sign in the beginning of the staff. What does it mean?
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Are odd time signatures perceived as execution errors by layman people?

I recall being told once that odd time signatures like 5/8, 7/8, etc. are perceived by layman people as if the interpreter had an execution error (like he/she made a tempo mistake). Is it common ...
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How do you know what beat to emphasize based on the time signature?

In learning the guitar I have run across various time signatures. In each time signature it seems as if you are supposed to emphasize different beats. Is this something that you just have to intuit, ...
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What do the 3/4 and 4/4 numbers mean?

In music notation, I've always been looking for a simple explanation of those numbers that appear on the far left of musical piece, such as 3 over 4 or 4 over 4. I have a hunch they affect the ...
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What is the importance of tempo and time-signatures?

I would like to ask what is the importance of tempo and time-signatures. By this I mean, aren't tempo and time-signatures all interchangeable. For example, a 4/8 60 BPM can be also described as 4/4 ...
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What time signatures are used in flamenco and related styles?

Recently I've been trying to get some flamenco spirit into my playing. I've already experimented with some 'gypsy' scales and it feels good ... but I've also realized that part of the secret is in ...
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How to tell the time signature of a song by listening?

Every song has some kind of time signature even if different parts of the song have different time signatures there is always a time signature. When learning a song by ear and no score, knowing the ...
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Triplets in 9/8 time

How do eighth note triplets work in 9/8 or 6/8 time? I know in 4/4 they take up the space of two eighth notes but haven't been able to figure out how they work in 8.
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8 beats per measure

I found this typesetting of a Late Renaissance cornetto piece, and I was instantly perplexed when I tried to hear it in my head when I noticed that there were 8 beats per measure. Is this something ...
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What does it mean when there are two time signatures

I am learning the Blazhevic number 34 for tuba and it is in (9/8 3/4) time. What does that mean? It seems to me that some measures equate to be in 3/4 while others equate to be in 9/8. Very confused. ...
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Strumming, picking patterns for unusual time signatures

If the time signature is 8/8 or 4/4 and let's say we have 8 eighth notes in a bar the picking should just be down up down up down up, etc. But what happens if we have 7/8? Particularly in the next ...
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What do these numbers at the start of the music score mean

At the start of a guitar or drum score , there are always these 2 numbers which I don't understand What do the 2 numbers circled in red mean ??
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When is it proper (if ever) to extend time signatures (8/4 vs 4/4)?

When listening to most contemporary music, in my experience, time signatures tend to be in "common time", or 4/4. But sometimes it feels like the phrase or measure extends beyond the four quarter ...
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Tips for using complex time signatures in a “catchy” pop song?

I'm looking to write some music in the vein of a band I discovered recently called Icarus The Owl, who use some pretty wacky time signatures (anything from 21/16 into weirder territories) but always ...
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Best way to indicate a time signature in inline text?

If I want to express the time signature for common time in inline text (like the text you're reading), without the use of special graphics or symbols, I find it tempting to type it this way: 4/4 But ...
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Will straight crochets in 5/4 and straight quavers in 5/8 at same BPM sound the same?

If you write 5 1/4 notes in 5/4 at a tempo of q (quarter note)=120 and write 5 8th notes in 5/8 at e(eighth note)=120, one after another would they sound the same?
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What is the meaning of the song “Solid Four”?

There is a song by the Andrews Sisters from the 1940s whose lyrics talk about a difference between eight-beat rhythm and four-beat rhythm. For example: The boogie woogie was never like this, ...
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How drummers and percussionist should handle change in time signature?

I'd like know how a drummer or percussionist should handle a change in the time signature of a piece such the one found in Low Light by the Pearl Jam. I am familiar to syncopation as "placement of ...
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What is the connection between time-signature, beat, and tempo?

What is the connection between time-signature, beat, and tempo? Mainly time-signature and tempo. Tempo is beats-per-minute I know, but does the time-signature affect it? For example, in a 120bpm ...
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An effective method for counting and identifying time signatures.

When I listen to some odd time signature songs I have some serious trouble dissecting the time signatures at times. Songs with 6/8 or 3/4 are easy enough to identify, but some progressive rock/metal ...
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Is it okay to have number of notes in a bar that doesn't conform with the time signature?

Just a newbie question. In musical notation, is it okay to have number of notes in a bar that doesn't conform with the Time Signature? For example, look at this music sheet: Can you see that the ...
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I have a song in my head, I know how it sounds, but I can't get it to translate well to DAW

I've had a full-fleshed out song in my head for days, but I can't figure out how to get it started. I THINK I have the tempo correct, but when I play it out, it doesn't line up with the measures, and ...
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What happens technically when you accentuate on a time-signature?

When you have a 4/4 time signature you typically accentuate beats "1" and (minorly) "3" for every measure. On a piano, what does that mean technically? Is beat "1" just louder or is it also a (little) ...
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The importance of cut time [duplicate]

I have wondered for a while what the purpose of Cut Time (2/2) actual is. While studying music theory I've always been told the reason is to reduce the use of eighth notes and sixteenth notes in a ...
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How the time signature affects how to play a melody

I was playing on my clarinet the song Memory from the musical, Cats. It is written in 12/8 time. Although I know what that means -- the equivilent of 12 eight notes in a bar, I don't understand how ...
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What beats does the horn typically play on in a 2/4 march?

Wikipedia states: French Horns tend to always carry the rhythmic backup of a march. For example, in cut-time marches, they are typically assigned upbeats (the + of 1 and 2) to provide the "pah" ...
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How to determine time signature of drum tab?

Recently I started playing drums on the side just to relax, so nothing serious. I picked up this song because the drums seemed reasonably complex so that they would present a fair challenge for the ...
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Guitar Bluegrass basics

I've recently gotten interested in learning to play bluegrass and need some direction for how to use previous knowledge and experience to pick up this style as quickly as possible. A summary follows ...
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Is the time signature switching every measure?

I think that the reason my compositions in DAW's have seemed off is because they've actually been changing time signatures throughout, and I haven't accounted for it. I tested this by making this tab ...
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Which are the ~15 most common time signatures?

I'm working on a metronome app and wondering which are the most common time signatures in classical and modern music so I can add them. Now I have 10: 2, 3, 4, 5, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12 4 4 4 4 8 8 ...
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What is the time signature of Killing Me Softly? [closed]

I want to transcribe in Sibelius the song "Killing Me Softly" (shown here), but I can't get the rhythm right. What I have so far is 6/8 time with the first three notes being Eighth notes, and the ...
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How do I make this beat fit in the measures evenly, time signature-wise?

In a program for tabbing (but I use with MIDI creation) called Tuxguitar, I've written out a drum beat on hihats, and I'm pretty sure the bpm is correct, and everything SOUNDS correct, but I can't get ...
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How can I change the time signature to make the score easier to read?

I'm trying to transcribe a pop song. I'm fairly sure that the time signature is 2/4 since it has a ONE two ONE two, feel like a march. My problem is that it's a fast song and contains so many 32th ...
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General questions about piano sheet music notation

This is the song I wanted to do, not on a piano but in FL Studio. But I don't play the piano so I need some help in dissecting this piece. Those ##C, what do those mean (and what are they called?) ...
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How to identify complex time signatures?

What methods can I use to find the time signatures of strange/complex songs? For example, what are the time signature(s) this song uses? ...
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Learning to read music, please help, understanding time signatures

I am attempting to teach myself how to read music and have hit a wall. My trouble is time signatures and it was described to me as this: Imagine you are walking and you walk 1-2-3-4. This would ...
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I need help understanding a complex (or maybe compound) time signature

I composed this song a few years ago originally using a tracker (an old-school, very freeform compositional workflow), and have been recently trying to transcribe it into a more modern DAW (Ableton ...
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How can I learn timing from a guitar tab?

When playing guitar/bass from tabs, I find that I can learn the fingering easily, but the timing is often wrong when I play with a backing track. I'm fairly noobish to music notation/tablature, but I ...
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Differentiating between fast 6/8 and 4/4

Take for (extreme) example, this song: ...
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What is the time signature and tempo (let's say for the intro) of Yes' Close to The Edge song?

Most of the sources I've seen talk about 6/8 or even 3/4, but I totally feel like I'm listening to a 4/4 with triplets everywhere, and even more, 4/4 would mean about 120bpms if 1/4=1bpm, which has ...
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What are some rythmically complex songs (with a large amount of time signatures)? [closed]

I'm looking for some complex songs (regardless of genre) that include a large amount of time signatures and time signature changes, with preferably many odd time signatures included. For example: ...
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How do I develop a structured way of thinking?

A lot of times, when I'm trying to come up with a riff on my guitar/bass, my bars' time signatures change a lot, and I don't realize it. For instance, the first bar might be 4/4 then the second 5/4 ...
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Why use meter of 3/8? [duplicate]

I see that most online scores of Beethoven's "Für Elise" specify its meter as 3/8. However, this one has 3/4 instead, which seems to make it easier to read (all the 1/16th notes become 1/8). I don't ...