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The minor scale is not called the "minor scale" because it is the most minor. Names don't have to accurately reflect the definition. Modes are sometimes classified as "minor" or "major" depending on their third (a minor third usually comes with other minor degrees like the flat 7th which is common to all minor modes of the major scale). And of all the minor ...


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There seems to be a general confusion here. Everything you can play or imagine is possible. Theory is a means to describe music, but music is by no way bound to any theory whatsoever. Major scales are typically not a good way to describe (or play) Blues. Better suited are scales that are aptly named "blues scales" (see ...


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It's important to understand that mode doesn't have to be, and often isn't, an explicit choice. You wrote: The notes we play and the order is based on sound and emotion. and that's true enough, but—if you've mostly written notes from a single western key and are writing in a more or less traditional style—then the way you've used those notes will be in ...


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When you play a C Major scale and have emphasis on a note other than C, such as D, then it is D Dorian. The player implies that the D note is the root using the notes of the C Major scale. Another thing is the harmony behind the scale. What chords are being used? That would direct your ear in hearing where the root is. If I play Dmin7 chord and use the C ...


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I'll give this a shot. Some elements contributing to a Medieval sound are Minor-key, modal melody (I think it is Dorian) Melody is catchy and song-like and follows a resolution pattern that resembles old drinking songs or sailor songs. The 6/8 rhythm also contributes to a drinking-song feel. Harmonic voice-leading features prominent parallel motion ...


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Sure, that kind of modal shifting using the same root relationships is generally quite effective. In your particular example, you might want to raise the 7th scale degree (C to C#) for V and vii chords (much as you might do in minor) in order to get a stronger drive to the i chord, but then you wouldn't strictly be in D Dorian. Either way works but has a ...


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I hope no one minds that I got curious, and did a bit of digging into this on my own. I discovered what appears to be an excellent resource answering this very question. The book is entitled Between Modes and Keys: German Theory, 1592-1802 by Joel Lester (1989). I do not have access to a copy of the book, but I've been able to see several relevant portions ...


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For me it depends whether I'm on guitar or piano. On piano, I will base everything on the major scale of that key. So to play in C Aeolian, I would start with C major, then say "I'll need to flatten the third (E -> Eb), the 6th (A -> Ab) and the 7th (B -> Bb)" On guitar, that method doesn't work for me. On a guitar, I use the shape corresponding to the ...


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Yes, they're using all the same notes, but not necessarily in the right order... C maj. will be CENTRED around C, D Dorian will be CENTRED around D, E Phrygian will be... you get the picture. The home (CENTRED) note will be the mode letter. The chords may well be the same, but their function will be different, i.e. in C maj., the G will be the dominant ...


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It's quite a big subject, but one where I believe musos are split into two camps. One, like you (and I), think in terms of a set of modes being from a 'mother key'. As in C maj.begets D dorian, E phrygian, F lydian, G mixolydian, A aeolian and B locrian. Thus, when playing in, say, G mixolydian, one uses the notes from C maj. but centres around G. The ...


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Basically, modes come from a major scale, also known as the Ionian mode. This is your TTSTTTS spacing, note by note, as in Cmaj: CDEFGABC.Starting on the 2nd note, and rising to an octave above it, you get the Dorian mode.The next starts on the 3rd note, E in this scenario.It's the Phrygian mode. The 4th degree start gives the Lydian, the 5th ...


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Mode mixture is a pretty common thing to see in rock music. Basically, that just means it's okay if you see chords that are outside of the key here and there--and the major chord built on the flat 7th (bVII) in particular is something you'll see a lot. For this song, I would say your analysis of D mixolydian is completely accurate. The root is undoubtedly ...


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The basic idea on how to establish a mode is make the tonal center of the progression and melody center the tonic chord of the modal scale. For example this progression would signify C major. C - F - G - C The progression stats and ends with C and the melody to accompany this would use the notes of the C major scale that would start and end with a ...


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Modes and scales are just a way of ordering a series of notes. A bit like there's an order for letters - alphabet - but those letters never get used in that order (apart from the word 'no'...). A song in a particular mode will be based around a particular note. As in, that note feels like home, often a start place, and usually a finish place in a journey. ...


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Taking C major/C Ionian as a start point, as in C D E F G A B C, the mode starting on note 2, D, using all the same notes, will be D Dorian. This is sometimes, confusingly, called 'the Dorian of C'. You , I think, are finding 'the Dorian of Bb', which will start on C, and use the notes from Bb maj/ Bb Ionian.Thus, the notes involved will be C D Eb F G A Bb ...


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From the Grove Online article on Mode by the late, noted musicologist Harold Powers: "[Johan Mattheson's Das neu-eröffnete Orchestre listed] the 24 major and minor keys, [which had been] first set out as a whole in 1711, only two years earlier, in Heinichen’s Neu erfundene und gründliche Anweisung … des General-Basses." Powers quotes Mattheson specifically ...


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Sorry, but I have to chime in after all this time. The answers given here, while accurate, convey none of the most critical distinctions, nor of how modes sound to the ear in a way different from scales. And how things sound is what music is all about. Otherwise you may as well describe the difference between, say, Leonardo Da Vinci and Claude Monet by ...


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If you look at just a small part of the tune under a magnifying glass, so to speak, then you don't know. A D minor chord is playing, or a G7, and all the notes are from the key of C major. You could be in a II-V-I cadence or whatever. To know that you are in D Dorian, you have to step back and take a bird's eye view of the tune's structure. Strong clues ...


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This is not right. The modes of the major scale each have 7 notes; instead you have listed both scales as having all 12 possible pitches, but just starting on different notes. You have listed a chromatic scale on C and a chromatic scale on D. Also, the way you describe a number of the intervals is not correct: for instance C-F# is a 4# (in your notation). ...


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For jazz in the Phrygian mode, listen to McCoy Tyner and Coltrane playing modally. C Phrygian derives from Ab major, so the notes are C, Db, Eb, F, G, Ab and Bb. This means that the scale has no major 3rd. Instead the 4th (F) is emphasised. Another feature is the b2. In C Phrygian this is Db. Here's a typical Phrygian chord: C+Db+F+Bb. When improvising, ...


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The basic point that Mr. Ewer makes is correct: a mode is not the same as a key, just as a mode is not the same as a scale. However, he then confuses things by using a different definition of “key” than the one commonly used in modern Western music. Some minor scales have a major 7th, like the harmonic minor and melodic minor ascending. Other minor scales ...


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First of all, the clefs are not quite right and the bottom part should be an octave lower (this is inferrable from the illegal 4th in the penultimate bar). Modes in Renaissance style are not the strict collections of 7 notes used in "modal" pop and jazz songs. Instead, a mode tells us where the tonic is located within a field of 11 notes, 7 diatonic and ...


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C Dorian is C D Eb F G A Bb D Dorian is D E F G A B C D So D Dorian has the same notes as your C Ionian, but you are starting from a different position. I am not sure what you mean by "Next" in the context of your question, though.


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No. 2. C blues. Really, that's all I wanted to say.


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A thing I noticed in 16th century music in phrygian is the heavy use of major VI harmonization -- in your case, that would be A-flat major. I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, to the modern ear, it can very readily collapse the tonality of the piece into the relative major, losing all the nifty modality. On the other hand, it is awfully ...


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Along with the German theorists like Lippius cited in other answers, English musicians and theorists from quite an early date also divided the keys or 'tones' into two categories based on the major or minor quality of the third above the final. At least in the seventeenth century, however, they did not use the terms 'major' and 'minor', but rather 'sharp' ...


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Finger Style I would suggest you practice right-hand patterns. Your note that the exercises you found are "useless" suggests to me that the area you truly want to improve is your right-hand finger picking technique. There are 3 fundamental patterns you should master with the right hand to begin with: 1) Ascending arpeggio: Thumb, Index, Middle, Ring. ...


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I'm studying music myself, but I think I've learned enough to answer your question, just in case it hasn't been cleared up for you. Okay, to simplify it as best as I can…although the Dorian mode is built on the second letter of the C major scale(D), it can begin on any note. Basically, you should only use the D Dorian as a reference to show you whole/half ...


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Think of it like this: go down a full step from C and figure out the key signature for the major key that corresponds to that note. A full step down from C is "Bb." The key of Bb major has two flats. Easy as pie.


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If one has designated a piece of music as being in a particular mode, e.g. D Dorian, then that is what it's in.It will be centred around D, and have a minor sound, mostly. When that feel moves, it may well have gone into a different mode.Relatives or parallels will probably have moved to a different mode.Yes, C Ionian and A Aeolian have exactly the same ...



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