Timeline for Change MIDI octave before data reaches computer
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| Jun 4, 2020 at 10:03 | comment | added | Ate Somebits | @piiperiReinstateMonica 1) being put off/abandoning the original solution 2) real-time processing bottlenecks due to lack of built-in MIDI processing 3) trying to bend the implementation 4) unnecessary costs due to implementing a hardware solution for a software problem, to start with | |
| Jun 4, 2020 at 9:55 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | @Hatebit The problem is - student plays a note on a transposing instrument, and it appears in notation in concert pitch, which is wrong for that instrument's notation. That is the problem. Can you list the problems that trying to solve this causes? | |
| Jun 4, 2020 at 8:20 | comment | added | Ate Somebits | @Kale There is no such thing as transposed MIDI data. Not in the classical sense. There is simply no provision in MIDI for saying "these notes are transposed". as far as I know. That's because MIDI doesn't deal with classical notation. This is also where it gets interesting: a C4 or C5 are just conventions that do not necessarily correspond to any notational system for octave numbering. It's mostly a choice of software, somewhat like level meter markings. What I am trying to say is, you are creating more problems by trying to solve this particular (non-)problem. C4 vs C5 is a moot point. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 21:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackMusic/status/1268286355332874242 | ||
| Jun 3, 2020 at 15:47 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | If you want a fun project, try an Arduino or Raspi based router/processor. Raspi might be able to do USB I/O in both directions. I recently made an Arduino box like that, DIN MIDI IN+OUT with proper opto isolators and all, guitar pedal compatible 9V power in, small graphical OLED display, mostly improvised mash-up schematic, and even an RJ-45 connector so I can control it with my old Line6 Floorboard which uses an ethernet cable for analog I/O for the switches, wah/volume controller and LEDs. Building it was a great learning experience. I haven't used it too much yet though. ;) | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 10:51 | comment | added | Kale | @Hatebit The Guitar MIDI device outputs C4, which is the correct note to play when C5 is notated. These basic education apps (3 tested) on the iPad doen't know they are receiving transposed MIDI data and thus registers this as an incorrect answer. None of these apps have any MIDI settings available other than on/off. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 10:49 | comment | added | Kale | @piiperiReinstateMonica On the cheaper, wired Triple Play, there are two switches, which can be programed for various uses. However, those settings do not persist across apps; they are only effective within Fishman's app. Tested by setting them to change octave, then using them in another app. In the test app, they changed patches (which is their default setting). These educational apps definitely aren't sophisticated enough to have any ability to pay attention to octave changes, and, given my test, I'm assuming that takes place on the software side, not on the controller. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 9:56 | comment | added | Ate Somebits | Well, OK, let's take a step back. A guitar is a transposing instrument, whose notes are registered transposed by the software because they are transposed. I don't see a problem. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 8:30 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | Isn't the TriplePlay Connect thingy supposed to have settings for this. If it doesn't, then this is Fishman's fault as much as anyone else's. :) | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 8:28 | comment | added | Нет войне | @piiperiReinstateMonica aha, yep, that's probably right. Never mind me... I was assuming that these apps would deal with audio in some way too... | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 8:27 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | @topoReinstateMonica I think the idea is exactly the opposite - to get the notes to show up correctly like it's written for guitar, not in "concert pitch" like the apps are currently showing them. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 8:03 | comment | added | Нет войне | If you teach the students the right notes in absolute terms, won't you be teaching then the wrong written notes for the guitar - which is the instrument they'll actually be playing? It sounds potentially quite confusing for the student.... | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 7:54 | answer | added | Tom | timeline score: 4 | |
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| Jun 2, 2020 at 19:37 | history | asked | Kale | CC BY-SA 4.0 |