Timeline for How come modern modes are based on the same set of intervals?
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Jun 12, 2020 at 10:25 | vote | accept | Yohan Straussenberger | ||
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Jun 12, 2020 at 7:32 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | So do you assume that in other scales the notes are for "harmonic reasons"? What does that mean? A guarantee that note combinations can be selected randomly? Or that stacks of thirds make sense? I think there's an elephant in this room and that is: so what if a scale has such and such intervals. What do you do with them? Or is there an implicit agreed upon assumption that unless stated otherwise, "scale" means "reference grid for building harmonic stacks of thirds"? By the way, that's exactly what Barry Harris's scale is for, and it has consecutive semitones. Assumptions! | |
Jun 11, 2020 at 20:44 | comment | added | Matt L. | @piiperiReinstateMonica: Of course, there are many scales with consecutive semitones. Also bebop scales have consecutive semitones, but they are mostly there for melodic reasons, not so much for harmonic reasons. The same holds for the blues scale. You don't usually accompany a blues with chords built from the blues scale. This is different from standard heptatonic scales, where we build chords by stacking thirds from each scale tone. | |
Jun 11, 2020 at 19:54 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | Barry Harris's "sixth diminished" scale has consecutive semitones and you can create beautiful sounds with it. Blues scales have consecutive semitones. But you don't necessarily play the consecutive semitones at the same time. | |
Jun 11, 2020 at 18:24 | comment | added | zipzit | I’ve been trying to learn basic music theory. Your restriction “we don’t want two consecutive half steps in our scales” was brilliant. The light bulb came on in my head. That makes total sense and really puts a “pattern of intervals” in a better light. (Major scale / minor scale). Many thx. | |
Jun 10, 2020 at 19:44 | history | edited | Matt L. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 10, 2020 at 19:39 | comment | added | Matt L. | @piiperiReinstateMonica: Fair point, but it's indeed an arbitrarily chosen limitation, just to get some focus. If I include the whole-tone and diminished scale, one could ask why not include 8-note-bebop scales, etc. | |
Jun 10, 2020 at 18:16 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | Diminished and whole-tone scales are commonly used, so why limit to 7-note scales. | |
Jun 10, 2020 at 17:29 | history | answered | Matt L. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |