Timeline for Are there any situations when one needs to make a distinction between slurs and ties?
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| May 5, 2020 at 19:50 | comment | added | Tim | @CarlWitthoft - a man's word, and all that... It's never too late to make amends. | |
| May 5, 2020 at 18:41 | comment | added | Carl Witthoft | @Tim I"m sure I forgot all about it at some point, like, say, early morning Nov 12, 2016. | |
| May 5, 2020 at 15:24 | comment | added | Tim | @CarlWitthoft - it's been nearly five years. Found any yet?! | |
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| Mar 27, 2016 at 12:28 | answer | added | Laurence | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 2, 2015 at 3:42 | answer | added | Abel Cheung | timeline score: 4 | |
| Jun 28, 2015 at 21:21 | history | edited | Speldosa | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 28, 2015 at 19:31 | answer | added | Tim | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jun 28, 2015 at 13:07 | comment | added | anatolyg | @jjmusicnotes Please convert your comment to an answer. I think it contains valuable information, but it's formatted like a reply, and probably you can add other examples. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 19:22 | comment | added | jjmusicnotes | @CarlWitthoft Well, a slur covering the same pitch is fine and normal. You said that ties can indicate phrasing, which they cannot. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 18:47 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackMusic/status/614867687928397824 | ||
| Jun 27, 2015 at 18:39 | comment | added | Carl Witthoft | @jjmusicnotes I'll try to find an example, tho' you're probably right. I do know of instances where a slur covers 3 or 4 notes of the same pitch as a phrasing indication, but not sure about just 2 notes. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 18:35 | answer | added | Atelje Sokes | timeline score: 4 | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 15:27 | comment | added | jjmusicnotes | @CarlWitthoft I've never heard of a tie being used to indicate phrasing. A tie simply joins two notes, nothing more. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 15:26 | comment | added | jjmusicnotes | @Speldosa Agreed with alephzero here. A slur with two notes of the same pitch signals a string player to many several notes in one bow direction. When tenuto markings, this is called louré bowing, with staccato, it's called slurred staccato. For wind instruments, it indicates several notes to be played with breath attack - no tongue articulation. Slurs are also thicker than ties and reach to the center of the notehead. Ties are thin and flat and begin slightly away from the interior part of the notehead. Musicians distinguish them all the time. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 15:11 | comment | added | Darren Ringer | "The only purpose of a tie is notational" - that should essentially be the answer. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 15:07 | comment | added | user19146 | @Speldosa In your link to the other question, note that in the music example the shape of the ties and the slur are slightly different even though they both "connect two G's". That difference is important, though in poor quality music engraving it can be hard to see. There are other notations to indicate "a sort of pulsating sound", by combining a slur with articulations like dots or dashes. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 15:00 | comment | added | user19146 | @carlWitthoft No, slurs are used to indicate phrasing. The only purpose of a tie is notational. Ties are used to represent a single played note which it is impossible to represent with a single note symbol (for example a duration of 5 quarter notes), or a single note that starts in one bar and ends in a later bar, or where writing a single note would be rhythmically confusing (for example in bar in 4/4 time starting containing a 16th note, a dotted half note, and a dotted 8th note, the dotted half note should be rewritten using ties to show how it relates to the beats in the bar). | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 13:59 | comment | added | Carl Witthoft | Keep in mind that a tie can be used to indicate phrasing, so there's the possibility of ambiguity. | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 12:48 | answer | added | mkingsbu | timeline score: -1 | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 10:47 | answer | added | user21166 | timeline score: 11 | |
| Jun 27, 2015 at 10:24 | history | edited | Speldosa | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 27, 2015 at 9:36 | history | asked | Speldosa | CC BY-SA 3.0 |