Timeline for What's this Time Signature if not 4/4?
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| Nov 17, 2017 at 19:11 | history | edited | José David | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 30, 2017 at 18:19 | vote | accept | markzzz | ||
| Sep 8, 2016 at 19:55 | comment | added | phoog | @markzzz a lot of the conventions are in place for historical reasons. It started out with long and short notes; the short had half the duration of the long. Then things "slowed down" such that the whole note -- the longest basic note in common use for the last few centuries -- is actually half of a short ("semibreve"). | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 19:53 | comment | added | phoog | @markzzz "Let's say I use half note to be given one beat": this is equivalent to saying "let's say I choose a time signature where the bottom number is 2." So your question about 3/2 vs. 3/4 makes no sense in that context. 3/4 is a time signature in which the quarter note gets one beat, so it violates your starting assumption. But if you are saying that it's possible to notate the same piece in 3/4 or 3/2, you are correct. There's not a lot of difference between a piece written in 3/2 using half and quarter notes and a piece in 3/4 using quarters and eighths. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 21:40 | comment | added | Tim | @markzzz - you really need to start at the basics, and work through. You have some ideas, but they don't seem to be joined together. Have a look at simple theory, rather than making up your own, and it will begin to make a lot more sense. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 17:01 | comment | added | markzzz | Mmm... not clear :) Let say I use half note to be given one beat, instead of quarter. What's now the difference between 3/2 and 3/4? You repeat the same 3 times a "beat" (which is half note instead of quarter). At 60 BPM, in one minute, you have in both case 20 bars and 60 beats. I really don't understand that point 1 "The note length that it is used as time unit or "beat"". Whatever unit lenght of Beat you will decide to use, time signature it's the same :O | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 16:27 | comment | added | user19146 | The definitions of "time signature" etc are based on conventional music notation, not the a graphical display in a MIDI piano-roll. In conventional notation. the lengths of the different notes change by factors of 2, not 3, so time signatures are always "x/2", "x/4", "x/8", etc. Actually some contemporary music is written using time signatures like "x/3", but trying to explain what that means would be too confusing until you have understood how standard notation works - and unless you are studying music at university level, you will probably never see a time signature like "5/3" anyway. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 16:04 | comment | added | Dom♦ | @markzzz alone it's not. The time signature dictates what gets the beat. For your other question see this music.stackexchange.com/a/36310/7222. Be warned though if you don't understand the basics you will just confuse yourself more. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 15:57 | comment | added | markzzz | Or even better: why a quarter (1/4 of whole note) is considered a beat? (which its note lenght/duration depends of Main tempo) when I draw it. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 15:52 | comment | added | markzzz | @Dom: I think you don't get what I mean :) Yes, the bottom number is where I get the beat. Starting from the opposite: let call it "pulse" instead of beat. At 60BPM, I have 60 pulse in 1 minute. Right? Why 9/4 means "9 beats in one bar" and 9/3 can't mean the same? Where 1/4 is related to BEAT as "pulse" unit? | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 15:39 | comment | added | Dom♦ | @markzzz the bottom number of a time signature tells you what gets the beat in simple meters. You can clearly see 4 beats per measure in your example regardless of what you put into it. I think you need to take a step back before you apply time signatures to DAWs as you don't seem to get the basics of what you are doing and how it applies to musical concepts. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 15:33 | comment | added | markzzz | I don't understand why "beat" is always considered 1/4 as "unit time". I mean, 3/4 is 3 times 1/4. 9/4 is 9 times 1/4. Why 1/4 and not (for example) 1/3? 9/4 means "9 beats" per bar. At 60BPM, in one minute, it plays 6 bars and 6 beats. If I had 9/3, it should play the same "9 beats" per bar. (so the same as above, 6 bars and 6 beats). Why the initial "bar" is 4 beats and not 3 beats? Not sure if you understand me correctly :) | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:52 | comment | added | Dom♦ | @markzzz it's 4/4 with half note triplets. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:45 | comment | added | markzzz | So what's the Time Signature of this? oi68.tinypic.com/21cwfht.jpg Still 3/4? (even if the note value is 1/3 instead of 1/4)? | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:28 | history | answered | José David | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
