Timeline for Why does the chord progression (i-)#IV-i sound acceptable?
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| Jan 20, 2019 at 6:35 | answer | added | tim connelly | timeline score: 1 | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 6:16 | comment | added | Dekkadeci | @Stinkfoot, Guitar Hero and Rock Band were two of the last sources of rock music with vocals I listened to extensively, several songs of which I do not like but ended up hearing a lot while playing the games. It's quite possible that all their songs were curated for mainstream audiences and therefore would not contain the #IV-i progression...or, since I didn't play all the Guitar Hero games, at least one of their songs does indeed have this progression! Philosophically, I still suspect that heavy metal uses this progression to get a reaction out of listeners instead of making harmonic sense. | |
| Dec 30, 2017 at 21:55 | comment | added | Stinkfoot | @Dekkadeci - but I've yet to remember a rock song in a Guitar Hero or Rock Band game - that's the start of your trouble, right there... But the problem is not so much with your listening, but your sociological and philosophical notions... | |
| Dec 30, 2017 at 6:58 | comment | added | Dekkadeci | @Stinkfoot, this is partially based on my experience listening to rock music and listening to and playing jazz music. Admittedly, I strongly prefer instrumental music and that has no doubt skewed my listening preferences, but I've yet to remember a rock song in a Guitar Hero or Rock Band game with the (i-)#IV-i chord progression. (If you do find one, put it in the comments or an answer and I'll listen to it!) I also don't recall ever hearing that chord progression in jazz, especially not the jazz I've played in school bands. Granted, jazz is expansive enough to have that progression somewhere. | |
| Dec 29, 2017 at 17:32 | comment | added | Stinkfoot | @Dekkadeci - I think you have way too many stereotypes, and imaginary rules and categories. Things don't break down that way in the real world of music and musicians and they never did. That stuff exists only in books by critics and professors who have little or no contact or knowledge of the day to day life of music people and musicians. | |
| Dec 29, 2017 at 17:17 | comment | added | Dekkadeci | @Stinkfoot, as aware as I am of rock's tendency to break societal rules, I generally find it too conservative to use the #IV-i chord progression. I also find that jazz, rule-breaker as it is, tends to use added chord tones too often to use those chords. I wouldn't be shocked to find that progression in prog rock, avant-garde jazz, or concert band music, though. Heavy metal tends to need clean chords often enough and collect enough of a reputation to want to remain on the edge of society to use that progression. But maybe it gets away with those chords because it wants to break the rules... | |
| Dec 29, 2017 at 12:16 | comment | added | Stinkfoot | What does "transgressive heavy metal genre" mean? Is heavy metal the first transgressive genre in History?! Composers have been experimenting and breaking rules as long as they have been composing. | |
| Dec 28, 2017 at 20:34 | comment | added | jdjazz | @Dekkadeci, I've edited my answer to include the things I mentioned in the comments. That's a nice example you found. To my ear, the fact that the different chords are being played by two different sections creates a division/separation between the two chords. Shifting tonal center seems like the wrong term because we're not really establishing a new tonal center. Maybe someone will suggest a better term to use. | |
| Dec 28, 2017 at 7:43 | history | edited | Dekkadeci | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
A much earlier example found, link adjusted
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| Dec 14, 2017 at 20:33 | answer | added | jdjazz | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 20:38 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackMusic/status/941044761527537669 | ||
| Dec 13, 2017 at 12:42 | answer | added | Laurence | timeline score: 4 | |
| Dec 12, 2017 at 23:07 | answer | added | user43681 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 12, 2017 at 6:53 | history | asked | Dekkadeci | CC BY-SA 3.0 |