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Timeline for Dvorak Plagiarized Beethoven?

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Feb 14, 2019 at 6:08 vote accept CommunityBot
Feb 13, 2019 at 21:31 comment added JimM They are both Scherzos. Are you seriously suggesting that the tempo indication of "Molto vivace" on both is an indication of plagiarism?
Feb 13, 2019 at 17:35 answer added Michael Curtis timeline score: 8
Feb 13, 2019 at 16:54 answer added Peter timeline score: 5
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Feb 13, 2019 at 15:21 answer added Carl Witthoft timeline score: 3
Feb 13, 2019 at 7:45 comment added user57228 While I'm not nearly knowledgeable enough to post an answer; perhaps "plagiarism" is't the best way of thinking about it. See the Wikipedia page for musical quotation. This was quite common in classical music and I don't think it would be considered unethical in the sense that we would think about "plagiarism" today.
Feb 13, 2019 at 7:12 comment added Dekkadeci Odd--I've listened to both symphony scherzos, and Dvorak's scherzo' s opening never struck me as resembling the opening of that Beethoven work. I'm willing to believe the resemblance is coincidence (or just a sign that Beethoven's works have influenced Dvorak).
Feb 13, 2019 at 5:18 comment added Ben I. I imagine it is purposeful. I'm not posting this as an answer because I haven't really studied the piece's history, so I am not confident in my conclusion. But I seem to recollect that Dvorak was trying to fit the music of underprivileged American groups into the great classical tradition. If I'm right, it is probably a purposeful reference, meant to evoke Beethoven directly.
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