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Sep 22, 2019 at 13:00 comment added Dekkadeci @Tim - I tend to be stricter for defining whether melodies are in modes partially because I default to thinking of them as being in major or minor, and similarly default to classifying them as major or minor on the fly when determining a melody's key by ear. It often takes substantial later analysis for me to determine whether a melody actually fits in any mode. I do have compromise states such as "C minor with Phrygian implications", but too many of those melodies have D naturals in them.
Sep 22, 2019 at 11:10 comment added Laurence There may also be an F# (or a C#, or an Ab...) that DOESN'T imply a momentary modulation at all.
Sep 22, 2019 at 6:51 comment added Tim @Dekkadeci - Devil's advocate! 'If all the notes fit... We don't use that criterion to determine major or minor keys. In key C, for instance, there may be a momentary modulation which involves an F#. That doesn't stop us saying it's 'in C'. So why not use the same 'rule' for Dorian, etc?
Sep 21, 2019 at 17:23 comment added Laurence May Aeolian or Phrygian songs not have chromatic notes?
Sep 21, 2019 at 12:22 comment added Dekkadeci @AlbrechtHügli - I'd only agree if all the notes fit in the Aeolian or Phrygian mode. Too often in similar music, not all the notes do, so I classify the piece in major or minor as necessary based on the tonic (or most commonly used chord).
Sep 21, 2019 at 12:03 comment added Albrecht Hügli There are lot's of pop songs in the 70ies and 80ies Am-F-G-Em. Would you agree they are neither major or minor but in one of the modes as Aeolian or Phrygian?
Sep 21, 2019 at 10:35 history answered Laurence CC BY-SA 4.0