Timeline for What does play with feeling mean?
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| Nov 20, 2019 at 21:53 | comment | added | ibonyun | I have edited and expanded my answer to address concerns raised in the comments. | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 21:51 | comment | added | ibonyun | @user45266 Most DAWs (which are sequencers) allow you to "humanize" your performance, which involves adding subtle random offsets to the rhythm and/or velocity domains. While it sounds less mechanical, it still doesn't really sound human, because humans are actually quite awful at creating randomness. You can also control for differences in timbre by making the human play a synthesizer, or by playing back the midi with realistic samples (although good modern samples usually come with human expressiveness baked in). | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 21:47 | history | edited | ibonyun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
clarify/expand to address concerns raised in comments. add more detail, and a relevant anecdote to illustrate.
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| Nov 20, 2019 at 21:13 | comment | added | user45266 | @ibonyun I do in fact agree, I just wanted to point out that one little bit of information. As one example, sequencers have perfect rhythm, where humans are inaccurate to a small extent. Another thing is that humans playing real pianos have different timbres than MIDI sequencers; even something as inconsequential as the sound of fingers striking the keys may affect perception of the performance. | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 20:59 | comment | added | user25111 | @user45266 can you give an example of one of the "large number of factors" which are not "due to the human execution of the inputs" which makes a MIDI sequencer sound different to humans? | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 20:22 | comment | added | ibonyun | @user45266 So why the "quibble"? It sounds like you're agreeing with my premise. | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 18:52 | comment | added | T.E.D. | The old player piano my relative had would also work the pedals, so it was a hair more than just notes and timing. They were also sort of an analog recording scheme. But to attempt to drag this back on-topic, yes in as much as MIDI sequencers play back more than just frequencies and timings, that also would be more than the OQ said they were doing perfectly. | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 18:35 | comment | added | Нет войне | @T.E.D. of course MIDI Sequencers can do that too - If you record into them with 'feeling', they'll play back with 'feeling'. It's only when you program/play in something with inappropriate timing that it will play back with inappropriate timing. | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 16:26 | comment | added | T.E.D. | @J... I thought of the player piano too, but as someone who had a relative with one of those, that isn't quite right. Player pianos are more like playing a recording of a performance, but using a live piano to do so. | |
| Nov 20, 2019 at 16:05 | comment | added | user45266 | @ibonyun "minus the feeling" I think that's what I'm saying. | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 20:03 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | Piano is one of the few instruments that can be quite perfectly recorded and reproduced as a MIDI sequence. | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 18:48 | comment | added | ibonyun | @user45266 No examples? If a midi file contains all the dynamics and tempo markings that are found on a score, and is played back with world-class samples, it will sound just like a human performer minus the feeling. Alternatively, how about a diskavier? No samples required. | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 18:38 | comment | added | user2357112 | This answer seems only comprehensible to people who already understand what "playing with feeling" means. It seems too vague and circular to be much help to anyone who doesn't. It doesn't seem to have any additional informational content beyond what little "with feeling" already conveys; it's mostly rephrasing, restating, and using equally-vague substitute terms. | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 13:28 | comment | added | J... | @user45266 We know what the answer is getting at here - if not MIDI, consider Compressorhead, or a player piano, organ grinder, etc. | |
| S Nov 19, 2019 at 7:41 | history | edited | ibonyun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
just unfriendly
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| S Nov 19, 2019 at 7:41 | history | suggested | user25111 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
just unfriendly
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| Nov 19, 2019 at 3:39 | comment | added | Aster | To echo the sentiments displayed here, "Playing with feeling" is where you a) know the tune so well you don't need the music, and b) when you allow yourself to go off-script a little, it's where you put the vibrato, the crescendo and the diminuendo. Once you know a piece to a certain level, when it's automatic, allow yourself to feel the things the piece is conveying, and 'mix that in'. | |
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| Nov 19, 2019 at 3:33 | comment | added | user25111 | @user45266 can you give an example? | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 21:15 | comment | added | user45266 | Slight quibble: MIDI sequencers sound different from humans, but that's due to a large number of factors, some of which are not entirely due to the human execution of the inputs. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:46 | history | edited | ibonyun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:28 | history | answered | ibonyun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |