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Jan 16, 2020 at 17:13 | history | edited | Michael Curtis | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jan 16, 2020 at 17:11 | comment | added | Michael Curtis | @Babaluma, how is that different from "practice your scales?" The issue is about being musical, and getting an authentic jazz sound, and chord/scale system not very good for learning how to do it. | |
Jan 16, 2020 at 16:39 | comment | added | Babaluma | It is useful as far as thinking how to move about the fretboard and I will say drilling in a pool of notes is good as a discipline but you then need to forget it all! | |
Jan 15, 2020 at 20:34 | comment | added | Michael Curtis | I took one theory class in college. That's the extent of my formal schooling. I don't know what they actual do in jazz classes. I can say chord/scale system is pervasive in the jazz books and lessons I have seen. | |
Jan 15, 2020 at 20:30 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | I don't know what to say. I think such thinking confuses even the whole idea of what modes are in the first place. I thought that the "see iim7 --> think Dorian" thing was a tool for some guitarists to guide their fingers to more practical positions on the fretboard ... but if that's even taught to pianists who have a complete map of everything in front of them? It's really difficult to believe this thing. I mean ... In jazz schools, you don't necessarily start by playing ordinary songs with good old functional harmony and then start jazzing it up, twisting the harmony in interesting ways? | |
Jan 15, 2020 at 20:29 | history | edited | Michael Curtis | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jan 15, 2020 at 20:13 | history | edited | Michael Curtis | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jan 15, 2020 at 20:11 | comment | added | Michael Curtis | @piiperiReinstateMonica Believe it or not, yes! iim7 V7 I6 may be presented as Dorian, Mixolydian, Ionian ...with no mention of it being all diatonic to one tonic. | |
Jan 15, 2020 at 20:09 | comment | added | piiperi Reinstate Monica | I haven't had any formal music training, and this chord-scale thingy sounds like huge nonsense. Did I get it right, in the chord-scale system, every chord in a song is treated as a separate modal jazz vamp? New chord, new mode, repeat for every chord change? | |
Jan 15, 2020 at 19:17 | history | answered | Michael Curtis | CC BY-SA 4.0 |