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What is this clef in Vivaldi RV281? This is the only source of the concerto is available ( at least without buying it, which is the manuscript). The piece did have a few weird clefs like an octave bass clef once for one of the violin sections, but nothing too unusual. His handwriting is pretty hard to read sometimes, and I am just plain confused about what it is. The section that played the stave was the viola section originally, and it switched to this clef later on. I remember seeing something like it before, but I forgot what it was, looks kind of like the French 18th-century clefs, but neither that nor alto clef sounded right or true at least to the recording I am using, which is essentially the same all the other ones, just a semitone lower (for baroque-interpretation, although I don't really care), here is the section in the youtube video I'm using and below it the picture of the clef in question,

. The clef in question.

  • There was a small missing sharp causing this problem, I apologize for asking the question, but I would still like to know is this some sort of this old french alto clefs because it seems so, or is another form of alto clef? – GameworldCEO Aug 6 '20 at 19:10
  • It's just a regular alto clef. – Jomiddnz Aug 6 '20 at 22:32
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It might be drawn a bit scribbly but it certainly looks like a K-clef, (a stylistic variant of the C-clef). In particular it's an alto clef (which makes sense for viola).

K-Clef with quavers

So those first few notes in the image are at the pitch of E above middle C. (With the two treble G-clefs directly above, the chord made (E, G, B) is an E minor chord in close position.

  • It doesn't even look like a K-clef, just a regular C-clef with the top loop faint or missing. The bottom loop is quite clear. – chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic- Aug 7 '20 at 6:41
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It looks a bit like a hand-written C-clef. Reading as such seems to make sense harmonically.

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It looks like an Ut3 clef: C (Do) e.g Ut is on the 3rd line.

So I read 4xE 8th twice and 4xB 8th twice. As ttw points out this makes sense harmonically: first chord is B G E (from top to bottom): G major chord G-B-E.

  • 'G major chord G-B-E'? – Tim Aug 7 '20 at 6:52

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