I am writing on lilypond the beautiful lyrical waltz of Shostakovitch and I am getting a whole measure empty. What I want to achieve is the following,Shosta right

But I am getting this: Shosta wrong

I'd tryied several combinations of rest but none is working, the best I can get is what I'd show here. My current code looks like (I use italian language, but certainly you will see the point)

\language "italiano"
upper = \relative do' {
\clef treble
\key fa \major
\time 3/4
r1 r1 r1 r8 do8 re mi fa sol

lower = \relative do {
\clef bass
\key fa \major
\time 3/4
fa,4 <do' fa la>4 <do fa la>^. do, <do' fa la> <do fa la>^. fa, <do' fa la> <do fa la>^. do , <do' fa la> <do fa la>^.

\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = "upper" \upper
\new Staff = "lower" \lower
\layout { }
\midi { }

Any ideas on how I can make it happen?

  • Including bar checks would've generated some warning messages that might've helped you track this down. Sep 22 '20 at 19:00

As simple as:

R1 * 3/4

Read a whole-bar rest. Which is 4 quarter notes. 4 quarter notes divided by 4, times by 3 is a whole-bar rest in 3/4 time!


They are not whole-note rests, either in 3/4 or 4/4 time but whole-bar rests, to be clear. They have a default value of 4 quarters.

My way

Larger than 4 quarter-notes: 5/4 is R1 * 5/4
Equal to 4 quarter-notes: 4/4 is R1 * 1/1, simply R1
Smaller than 4 quarter-notes: 3/4 time is R1 * 3/4

The fraction mirrors the time signature.

I'm seeing it as a whole-bar is 100%, more than 4 quarters is more than 100%, less than 4 quarters is less than 100%.

While the documentation is of course correct and doesn't state the fraction way, apart from larger than 4 quarter-notes,(and @Aaron's answer should probably be the correct answer), I think there are valid reasons for using fractions:

  • fraction mirrors the time signature
  • introduces the fraction of a note concept early-on in learning lilypond, it's particularly used in:
    • tuplets e.g. \tuplet 3/2 { c8 c c} (but this is 3 in space of 2, not tech. a fraction)
    • placement of delayed ornaments e.g { c8 * 1/4 s\trill s\turn s\prall d8 }
    • other places like spacing
  • confusion: if I see 2, I expect to see a half-note not a whole-note (half-notes have the additional pain of looking like whole-notes). With 1 I'm always seeing whole-note symbol.
  • Ha ha, indeed looked like a quarter rest was floating over there and the 3/4 did pretty well! You made my day Owain. Thanks
    – Juan Chô
    Sep 21 '20 at 10:15
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    In the question I noticed that each of the rests had strange horizontal placement within its measure. With your explanation, now I see that the rests are placed over every fourth quarter note.
    – shoover
    Sep 22 '20 at 2:14
  • @shoover I tried to expand and make my answer and make it more clearer.
    – user70304
    Sep 22 '20 at 3:33
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    Small correction: the documentation does give the fraction option. It uses the example of: \time 13/8 // R1*13/8 | R1*13/8*12 |, demonstrating a single-bar and mutli-bar rest.
    – Aaron
    Sep 22 '20 at 6:35
  • Yeah, the distinction is there. Got to be careful about language single-bar and mutli-bar rest as \override MultiMeasureRest.staff-position = 2 works on both, there's no SingleMeasureRest. Ha, ha can go on forever about quirks of LP, even in docs "Full measure rests" never heard the term1
    – user70304
    Sep 23 '20 at 1:24

Use a capital R2. (including the "dot" for dotted half-note) for your rests to indicate a full-bar rest. See here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/writing-rests#full-measure-rests

Based on the rest placement, Lilypond is interpreting your rests as lasting four beats, thus crossing the bar lines. That seems to be why the blank measure occurs: it's three of the four beats of the third rest.

  • Hello Aaron the R2 didn't work, for the whole 3 wholes rest. That was weird but the 3/4 trick did it. Thank you!
    – Juan Chô
    Sep 21 '20 at 10:17
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    @JuanChô Not R2, R2. (with a dot; i.e., dotted half-nonte). I've updated the answer to make it more clear.
    – Aaron
    Sep 21 '20 at 10:47
  • Ahh I see, indeed this solves the issue as well. Thanks!
    – Juan Chô
    Sep 21 '20 at 12:02

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