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The title really sums it all up but I'll try expand it slightly. Lets say I'm learning guitar and would like to improve my guitar work. Which of the scales should I learn first and why?

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  • This is a tough one. 'Silver Light', 'DRL', and 'yossarian' all have great answers. Major for theory vs Pentatonic for quick jamming. Both great starting points. I think DRL had lots of great information but some drifted into modes etc. That weren't all that focussed on the actual question of a persons first scale (but it was a great answer). Overall I think yossarian touched nicely on which you would choose depending on what you wanted to achieve (or the angle you wanted to approach) in improving your skill on guitar (guitar work). Which is why I'm giving him the correct answer.
    – Anonymous
    Jan 25, 2011 at 9:46
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    Identifying the "first" scale you should learn is irrelevant. You should learn ALL of them. It doesn't take much time at all.
    – user1044
    Jul 22, 2012 at 4:13

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It really depends what type of music you want to do; and how deeply you want to understand the mechanics of music itself.

If you just want to get straight into jamming a tune; learn the pentatonic scale, its about the easiest scale to learn and very versatile; something like 70% of the licks in all popular since the mid 60's is pentatonic based, and even before that most blues was pentatonic based (with an added note between the third and the forth intervals)

Here is Pentatonic scale in A

$6.5  $6.8  $5.5  $5.7  $4.5  $4.7  $3.5  $3.7  $2.5  $2.8  $1.5  $1.8

Its a good idea to learn this up and down; learn it well slowly before you start to speed up. A wise man once told me that if you never practice to play things slowly first you never learn how to play slowly. Practice it in different keys; its a good idea to find backing tracks to jam over, be musical.

Here is Blues scale in A (with the added note)

$6.5  $6.8  $5.5  $5.6  $5.7  $4.5  $4.7  $3.5  $3.7  $3.8  $2.5  $2.8  $1.5  $1.8

Note the added chromatic interval this where that classic blues sound comes from; its a good idea to try sliding into this note, or bending into it rather than playing it straight all the time; be expressive with it its the blues.

If you want to take this further you could bleed over into the natural minor as the mood takes you, since it differs from the pentatonic by only two notes.

A Minor scale

$6.5  $6.7  $6.8  $5.5  $5.7  $5.8  $4.5  $4.7  $3.4  $3.5  $3.7  $2.5  $2.6  $2.8  $1.5  

These scales are all pretty interchangeable in the key of A minor; however learning the minor scale particularly give you a whole new range of options.

A minor contains all of the notes of the Key of C Major, and so is rooted in C major, starting from its 6 interval (Aeolian Mode). This being the case, if you play A minor from its 3rd interval you are playing C Major. Because of this you have access to all of the other modes of the C Major Scale.

B Locrian - C Ionian(Major) - D Dorian - E Phrygian - F Lydian and G Mixolydian

If you start the A minor scale from each of the notes above, and carry on through an octave, you are playing the corresponding mode above. Each of these modes sounds good at certain times (over certain chords (their own)); each mode contains 'deviant'(from the major scale) intervals, which when embellished over the right chords really bring out the sound of the mode.

So technically by 'really' leaning A minor you have learned a whole branch of music theory, actually using this stuff really opens up your playing.

The stuff that I have just mentioned is the essential 'in the box' stuff. Things can get a lot more interesting if you start swapping modes in and out of your root key, from A minor to A Dorian for instance. A Dorian is rooted in G Major/E Minor, so you have the whole set of modes again from a different key signature, but you can remain rooted in the key of A.

Im not going any further since i'm already Waaay past the scope of the answer, so in summary:

Pentatonic/blues is a good first scale to learn if you just want to get playing.

Then if you want to take your knowledge further, the minor scale is only two extra notes, and it gives you access to all of the above and a whole world more.

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  • Your first scale is a minor pentatonic. Although it is often referred to as just pentatonic, the third is flat so it's minor. The major pentatonic is not used as much, but sounds quite different (Stir It Up for instance).
    – yossarian
    Jan 21, 2011 at 14:37
  • The major pentatonic is simply a different position of the same same scale.
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 19:22
  • I'm not sure what that means. The two scales have different notes in them. That makes them not the same. Do you meant that C minor and A maj pentatonic have the same notes? That is certainly true, but they're not the same scale when you put them in the same key.
    – yossarian
    Jan 21, 2011 at 20:18
  • What I mean is the major Pentatonic shape can be found in one of the 5 positions(similar to modes) of the Pentatonic scale on the neck, it is used very often, as a mode of the Minor pentatonic, in rock/popular music.
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 20:41
  • Right, I gotcha. I think it would be clearer if you said A Minor Pentatonic, since you do call it out as the key of A. If you had said it was the C Pentatonic, I'd have suggested you call it the C Major Pentatonic, since that is a more complete description of the scale. When teaching someone A minor, you might tell them that it's the same notes as C major, but you wouldn't tell them it's also a major scale and leave it ambiguous as to whether the key was A or not. But it's not a huge deal as the minor pentatonic scale is often referred to as just pentatonic.
    – yossarian
    Jan 21, 2011 at 21:57
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I would suggest a major scale. Although, pentanotic and blues scales are easier, because they have less notes and easier shapes, the major scale will give you a great starting point, because all other scales are, in one way or another, modifications of a major scale.

Here's the formula:

root note + 1 tone + 1 tone + 1/2 tones + 1 tone + 1 tone + 1 tone + 1/2 tones

Here is C major scale on 5th string:

$5 3 5 7 8 10 12 14 15

And the same scale in one position:

$5 3 5 $4 2 3 5 $3 2 4 5

Good luck in your playing!

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    Major scale is not a good scale to learn if you want to get jamming straight away; minor scale is much better for that and easier shapes are a matter of opinion, try playing the pentatonic in all five positions for instance.
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 9:39
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    @DRL quite possible, I'm just judging from my own experience. It was the first scale I've learned, and it helped me very much, when I learned the next ones, including pentatonic. Jan 21, 2011 at 10:20
  • Well you right in that the major scale is the root of all music; but there are many ways to approach the learning of it, since its all linked. Going in via the minor scale teaches, everything that the major scale teaches you, your just going about it from a minor perspective.
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 10:38
  • There are a couple of mistakes in your first tab. The 6th fret on the A string is an Eb, which is not in the C-Major scale. Instead it should be the 7th fret, which is an E-natural. Also, the 13th fret on the A-string is Bb, which also isn't in the C-Major scale; this should be the 14th fret, which is B-natural. Finally, you should include the final C, located at the 15th fret. Jan 21, 2011 at 14:00
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    @DRL, Major scale is better to learn if you're interested in theory. Minor pentatonic if you just want to get playing.
    – yossarian
    Jan 21, 2011 at 14:35
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Silver Light and DRL both give excellent answers outlining scales to start out with, but I think they've missed the important aspect to choosing between the two, what type of music do you play, how do you learn, what do you want to learn?

If you a rock / blues player that wants to get jamming with some friends as quickly as possible, then start with your minor pentatonic scale (often referred to as just pentatonic). It's very accessible and is used by a lot of the guitar greats of the 60s-70s. You can play it over an awful lot of music.

If you are a jazz player, start with your major scale. It's as useful for jazz as the pentatonic is for blues. And more importantly leads us to my last point:

If you want to learn music theory, start with your major scale. All music theory is based off your major scale. Absolutely all of it. If that's what you're interested in, learn it as soon as possible. Certain types of playing will absolutely need this knowledge (see Jazz and to a lesser extent Classical).

Here is your C Major Scale

$6 8 10 $5 7 8 10 $4 7 9 10 $3 7 9 10 $2 8 10 $1 7 8 10

Here is your C Minor Pentatonic Scale

$6 8 11 $5 8 10 $4 8 10 $3 8 10 $2 8 11 $1 8 11

Note that your first note in each scale is the root note of the scale. Low E, 8th fret is a C, so the scale is a C scale. If you were to move everything down one fret, then you would have a B scale. One more fret, and it's Bb / A#, etc. This is one of the big advantages of learning scales and chords on the guitar, once you know one, you know them all.

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    ", but I think they've missed the important aspect to choosing between the two," - Again did you actually read my answer?
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 19:25
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    @DRL, see my answer above. I disagree with you approach for learning theory. While you can certainly learn theory after the fact from knowing your minor scales, I don't think it's the best way to approach it if you want to start with theory. The major scale makes way more sense for that approach.
    – yossarian
    Jan 21, 2011 at 20:23
  • "After the fact"? I have explained in clearly how they are related and how by learning minor, you can learn all the modes of the major scale; i left out a lot related to minor scale theory which can only really be learned via the minor scale.
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 20:30
  • In addition; you have stated above "what type of music do you play, how do you learn, what do you want to learn"; and offered an either/or answer; if you properly read my answer you will see it makes the clear link between jamming with the pentatonic scale and theory, progressing through into the minor scale which is not very different and so is a natural progresssion.
    – Bella
    Jan 21, 2011 at 20:36
  • @DRL, I presented an either or because the question asked what to learn first. You can't learn two different things first. As I've said, I don't have anything against your approach, and it was the one that I learned and what I usually teach. But I think that it's not perfect for everyone. I'm not sure why you are getting so worked up about me having a different answer than you.
    – yossarian
    Jan 21, 2011 at 21:59
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If you want to rock right now, then the E minor pentatonic is a great place to start. It's really easy to play, sounds awesome and it's used in a bunch of tunes like Rumble, Shakin' All Over, Back in Black and many, many more. Here's the pattern:

Em pentatonic

That being said, it's not a great place to start if you want to understand what you are doing. Although it won't hurt to learn it first either.

To really understand how music in the Western world works, you should start with the Major scale because it's the starting point for music theory. It's the starting point for music theory because of the strong tension and resolution of the tritone in the V chord that is derived from the Major scale, but that's a topic for another time.

It's also important to remember that you're not only learning patterns, but what these different scales sound like. Learning to recognize these sounds is arguably as important if not more important than learning patterns. Remember, you make music with your ears, not with your eyes.

A one octave C Major scale in open position is pretty easy to play and to understand.

If you're familiar with reading scale diagrams already, you can start by playing it and listening carefully to it's sound. It sounds pretty light and happy.

C major

If you want to understand what's going on with Major scales, it's actually quite simple.

First, the musical alphabet. A B C D E F G

The notes in a C Major scale are C D E F G A B C. There are no sharps or flats. The notes that are not sharp or flat are called natural notes. The natural notes are all the white keys on a piano.

You see how the C Major scale Starts on C (hence the name C Major) and ends on a C? This is pretty important and why it's called C.

So the next question that needs to be answered is why is the scale type "Major" and not something else. Because of the spacing between the notes.

There are two distances you need to be aware of on the guitar fretboard, tone and semitone. A tone (T) is the distance of two frets and a semitone (S) is the distance of one (the adjacent fret).

The distances between the notes in a C Major scale are T T S T T T S. So, the distances between the notes are what give the scale it's sound, not the notes.

Try starting on a C note anywhere on any string, then on that same string moving up toward the body, play T T S T T T S. You will get a Major scale. It's obviously a bit awkward to play all on one string, but it will help you understand what is happening.

A lot of people will ask why any of this matters. It depends how far you want proceed with your development as a musician and how serious you are. If you just want to strum a few chords, it's probably not important. If you want be a good Jazz player, you'll need to learn this stuff. And why not? It's not that hard!

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The seventh mode of melodic minor. Also there are plenty of symmetric scales out there, meaning the number of modes (starting points) doesn't necessarily go up to seven.

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    Please justify this ! The 7th mode of melodic minor could start on 2 different notes ! Take Amin. ascending the 7th note is G#; descending, it's G natural.How confusing is that for a beginner ? What's a symmetric scale ?
    – Tim
    Mar 20, 2013 at 10:24
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The C major scale in the first position would be an easy scale to learn first.

I remember when I was 10 or 11 and I'd already learned to play all the first position chords. Then "La Bamba" came out (redone by Los Lobos) and of course I had to figure out that solo... which is the C Major scale played all in the first position.

The good thing about figuring this out is that the scale already has a context - C/F/G, and it has a melody you can hum/sing and a distinct rhythm! Perfect for a beginner!

Don't worry about knowing the scale and the notes - go by the sound of the notes and being able to play with the record/cd/mp3. Use the open strings! Once you can manoeuvre your fingers around the open position - you can then begin to study what you've just learned ;-)

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    Are you advocating learning the C Major scale first? Your answer is a little rambly and unclear.
    – user28
    Oct 18, 2011 at 22:17
  • Matthew, you're right - I wrote this in a hurry. But yes, the C major scale in the first position would be an easy scale to learn first. Learning it in context of a song also makes it easier for beginners to digest. Oct 18, 2011 at 22:50