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I'm reading George Russell's Lydian Chromatic Concept right now, and I'm trying to better understand its place (and his) in the history of jazz theory. Was he the first to posit this improvisational approach, or did he learn the basic system from elsewhere?

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  • I explored that a little while ago but didn’t get too deep. If I’m not mistaken, he did have his own take on it but he was essentially writing down one view of how jazz had evolved. Since it has been at least partly an “oral tradition” since the beginning, it might be hard to firmly determine what kind of theory was in the minds of early jazz musicians Jul 24, 2021 at 22:57

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Todd's comment that it can be "hard to firmly determine what kind of theory was in the minds of early jazz musicians" is absolutely correct.

Nevertheless, I have tracked down a source (The Cambridge Companion to Jazz by Mervyn Cooke and David Horn) that offers the best explanation so far.

It's clear that Russell's book was the first published text explicitly on jazz theory. However, one story claims that Miles Davis was "indirectly responsible for the Lydian Chromatic concept," suggesting that the idea of a chord-scale approach was indeed already present in the minds of at least one musician.

Ultimately my question was an attempt to understand the importance of Russell's book. If I can be frank, my reading of it hasn't left too positive an impression on me. It's not as systematic as I would like a music theory to be, which leads to a lot of circular reasoning on the part of the author. (It also gets downright pseudoscientific at times, but it's hardly the only theory treatise that does that.) But understanding Russell's work as the pioneering work on jazz theory helps me understand its appreciation more. He was very much a founder, but other authors down the line were able to package similar ideas in much more pedagogically minded ways (e.g., Mark Levine in his The Jazz Theory Book).

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  • "...my reading of it hasn't left too positive an impression on me..." good to know. I thought I would read the book, but the more I learn about it, the more I'm turned off. I get the impression he tried to shoe horn the overtone series into his lydian concept. Aug 12, 2021 at 21:38
  • @MichaelCurtis It's a worthwhile achievement, but it's also idiosyncratic. He says the "Star-Spangled Banner" is in Lydian (!), presumably because the first scale-degree four we see is raised.
    – Richard
    Aug 12, 2021 at 21:43
  • Yeah, it's that kind of stuff that turns me off. Aug 12, 2021 at 21:48
  • @Richard: don‘t you think this was rather a joke? I can‘t imagine that he was so ignorant. (Or maybe he wanted to explain to students what is the sharp fourth ... ;) Do you have a source when and where he said this? Sep 2, 2021 at 7:07
  • @AlbrechtHügli He definitely says it somewhere in his book; I'll try to find a page number, but unfortunately I think it was just a statement, and not an actual musical example, so it may be hard for me to find it.
    – Richard
    Sep 2, 2021 at 13:05

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