I heard a romanian gipsy fiddler playing dizzyingly rapid tremolo.

How can I achieve that?

  • It is called a bowed tremolo.
    – Neil Meyer
    Feb 1, 2016 at 8:50

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Tremolo should be a reflex, not a active fast up/down bow. Almost like a vibrato reflex but with the bow. I don't mean bow vibrato, that is another technique/discussion, just mean tremolo should be unconscious, not forced.

Sometimes tremolo can be very tiring if the right technique is not there. In classical musical typically Bruckner & Schumann write a lot of tremolo for the strings causing pain if not played properly.

The way I suggest to train this is rehearsing "legato", slowly, until it gets natural. Legato exercises are one of the best way to get the fingers in the right hand relaxed so they work as dampers of the arm movement. A bit like a basket ball, if you play it against the floor your arm, hand and fingers will trow the ball but they get back up before you actually think of getting them back to the position. When you play down-stroke legato the fingers follow "after" the bow in a natural, unplanned, unconscious way. Mastering this slow will make your tremolo relaxed, without inner energies that might be a contrary force inside the movement and causing tiredness.

About playing it "gipsy fast" its a result of exercise and relaxation. Like playing fast drills, or the Irish typical bow triplet, it will come naturally the more you play. In the end it gets to a vibration of the hands/fingers, minimized to create a shaking or the bow direction.

I normally exercise legato in the middle of the bow. The main point is to use the Interphalangeal articulations of hand and fingers. If they move relaxed (without having the whole hand as a stiff block) then you will create a relaxed movement and tremolo will occur in the hand/fingers. Otherwise the arm cannot move that fast as the tremolo needs.

  • At what spot of the bow should the legato be practiced? Should it be practiced using finger/arm/hand? Aug 17, 2013 at 19:04
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    @Shimmy, added to the answer.
    – Sergio
    Aug 17, 2013 at 19:08
  • Great answer. I'm able to work with finger & wrist only (no arm), is it a finger-only action? Should I practice finger only? Aug 19, 2013 at 1:04
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    Not only fingers, they maybe move the most but because the hand is also "shaking" them.
    – Sergio
    Aug 19, 2013 at 5:28
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    It takes time. Some things need a slow training, the slower the training the faster will be possible after. Keep training in a relaxed but focused way, and one day you will have come there.
    – Sergio
    Aug 19, 2013 at 7:34

I'm not a violinist, but the practice is the same as on guitar.

Start with the fundamentals Find a good few videos on proper bow technique, and tremolo technique. Watch them, then at a very slow speed execute them, and when I say slow I mean uncomfortably slow.

Start Slow So slow that you can focus entirely on geting an even sound, and playing in time(say crotchets at 50-60bpm). This allows you to get control of everything that you just can't think about at rapid speeds.

Speed up gradually My standard practice is to increase by 8bpm once you're comfortable playing at the speed you're on. once you get to double the original speed(around 120 is my line), half the tempo and the note value.

once you've done that continue the process as before. the Idea is that you will get to the point at each tempo of saying "this is too slow, I can play this at 8 more easily" and then when you do speed up you will already be 90% ready for each new tempo. you just need to iron out the little faults ;)

have a target Goal setting is helpful for all practice, including here. Define what dizzyingly fast is from a tempo standpoint, then make that your long term goal. Each time you paractice then set what tempo and note value your current goal for this session and that'll give you an end point that you can practically use today.

Stop if your arm gets tired When your hand gets tired, move on to something else. you've done more than enough if your muscles are getting weak and you don't want to damage your arm! in guitar and piano you should be relaxed especially during technically demanding pieces, and I believe that it's the same for violin. any tension from playing faster than you're ready for can kill your technique, and your playing arm!!!

I asked a violinist friend on Twitter and she said

For a really fast trem, it's mostly a finger & wrist movement not an arm one. Soft hands, don't grip too hard, practice ;-)

And I also found a wikihow.

Also, check out I find myself making the same mistake when practising - despite focussing on that part- how to remedy? ,it is along a similar vein to this question.

Hope that helps!


I am only eleven years old but I have found that it is easier if you pinch the bow with your thumb and forefinger.


Old thread but here is my suggestion:

I have a strange ability to do tremolo crazy fast by kind of "spazzing-out" my right arm, from the elbow. The way I do this, is to hold the arm rigidly and try to force it both up-bow and down-bow at the same time, if that makes any sense? It's like the muscles on either side of the arm (bicep vs. tricep) are both fighting to move the arm, resulting in no net movement, but instead an extremely rapid vibration is produced.

Kinda makes your arm hurt after a while, so use this sparingly. Also makes for a good base to a rapid up-bow staccato technique.

Incidentally, I am also Romanian, like your fiddler. ;D

  • Exactly what I'm looking for man! I need to produce an irrational uncounted tremolo where speed is what matters. Can you please provide more detailed info? Do you believe anyone can develop this? Any videos of violinist doing this? Feb 9, 2016 at 1:45
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    I don't really know how to explain how to do it, but I can try to convey how it feels when you're doing it right: you have to move your arm both ways at the same time. The bicep and tricep must fight each other for control, and rigidity in the arm must be maintained at all times. Attack the note firmly, and remember to keep a stiff wrist--the motion comes from the elbow. Must be done in the upper half of the bow, close to the tip. Press hard, but not hard enough for it to be scratchy. I might be able to record some video and upload it if I find a bit of time. Good luck!
    – vasilescur
    Feb 10, 2016 at 13:31
  • Can't wait to see the video. I've experimented with your directions unsuccessfully, but it looks promising. Feb 21, 2016 at 8:49
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    The video is at the following link: youtu.be/0Vn9qwMQ07E Recorded in 1080p at 60FPS, so feel free to change the speed to 0.5 .
    – vasilescur
    Feb 22, 2016 at 21:53
  • Thanks for sharing! I watched it, yep, it's dizzingly fast, and is exactly the one I'd like to achieve! I tried to imitate it and I believe it will be easier for me if you can explain to me what parts of the hand you deliberately make stiff. Feb 28, 2016 at 2:54

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