Notation for 8va on the repeat

Question

In piano music sometimes there is a section that is repeated, and on the repeat one (or both) hands are to play an octave up (or down).

I've seen this notated in English in the following form:

2^nd time RH 8^va

• But is there similar notation in the common music language Italian?

I imagine it might be rendered as something like:

V2 m.d. 8^va (Volta seconda mano destra all'ottava)

But this is just a guess, is this good music-Italian?

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When it's for both hands, such as:

2^nd time play both hands 8^va

I'm tempted to write something like:

V2 e.m. 8^va (Volta seconda entrambe le mani all'ottava)

Again this is just a guess, as I don't speak Italian.

• Are there examples of this sort of notation in the repertoire?

• Is there another way to notate that on the repeat, the notes for one (or both) hands are to be played an octave up (or down)?

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Update:

I've found a similar notation in Bartók's Mikrokosmos, No. 113:

Here, the following is used to show a change of dynamic on the repeat:

la II^a volta meno f

This seems to generally agree with both both @AakashM's and @Old_Brixtonian's answers (below). Though notably it uses a capital roman numeral to abbreviate seconda.

The Dolmetsch dictionary entry for II^da agrees with @AakashM's ordinal abbreviation of II^da rather than Bartók's II^a.

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However, I am still not sure how best to indicate which hand/hands the notation is applying to.

• Should I put the marking over each staff that it applies to?
  This would make hand indication superfluous, but an 8^va over a bass clef seems kinda yuk.

• Or should I use m.d/m.s. and possibly e.m. or d.m.?
  This would make it unambiguous as to whether it applies to one hand or both. But perhaps I shouldn't abbreviate entrambe le mani / le due mani?

I would find it helpful to see a score that uses this (or similar notation) for a change of octave on a repeat.

Answer 1

If your score strictly separates the hand's activities between the staves, as piano music tends to, then a simple 2da volta 8va above the top staff should suffice, to my mind.

_{2da being short for seconda, since volta is feminine; also note that second- goes before the noun, to mean 'second'}

Answer 2

In proper Italian it would be

la seconda volta entrambe le mani un'ottava più alta

But entrambe -"both" - might confuse people: it's rarely seen in music. So

la seconda volta le due mani un'ottava più alta

might be safer.

Do you need to bother with that verbiage though? It would be much simpler to say,

2nd x both hands 8va.