Could someone please assist with an explanation of these wavy lines in the bass with notes moving up to the treble scale? I am not sure how to interpret this information.
Anastasia - P.F. Webster, Alfred Newman
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2Please add what piece/composer these are from.– AaronSep 21, 2022 at 17:46
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Meter? Clefs? Is the bottom one with triplets and four slur lines a separate piece, another edition, something you notated?– Michael CurtisSep 21, 2022 at 21:12
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A distinction I think none of the answers will cover - the top notation is lightly implied to involve both hands, while the bottom notation is similarly implied to involve the left hand only.– DekkadeciSep 22, 2022 at 4:17
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More than LIGHTLY implied I think!– LaurenceSep 22, 2022 at 13:39
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The first example is 8ths, in 12/8 time (or possibly triplets in 4/4, well enough established for the numbers to be omitted) slurred in six-note groups. The wavy lines are one way of writing a slur that crosses between staves.
The second is triplet 8ths, in 4/4 time, slurred in three-note groups.
The first might have been written like this. Not as pretty?
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1There's not enough information to presume 12/8 time. It could be 4/4 with the triplets already well established and so not explicitly notated as such. 12/8 feel would be fair, though that would apply to both exceprts.– AaronSep 21, 2022 at 23:30
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OK, I'll give you that. Though I bet you can't quote an example other than the 'Moonlight'!– LaurenceSep 22, 2022 at 13:41
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3Schubert Impromptus in C minor, Eb major, Gb major, and both in Ab major. Chopin Nocturnes Op 15/1, 27/1, 32/2, 48/2, and 72/1. And Moonlight is in cut time, not 4/4. Don't be insulting.– AaronSep 22, 2022 at 14:56
Two different answers.
The top ones are phrase marks, meaning the 6 notes, 3 bass, 3 treble are played as one phrase - in one breath if you like.
The bottom are marks to denote triplets, 3 notes played in the time of 2. The number 3 is a giveaway here, sometimes written in the mark, sometimes over. Here, under.
The top and bottom wavy lines are not related to each other in any way.
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1On the bottom example I would say the notes also have phrase marks but in groups of 3’s since the triplets are marked on the bottom and triplets are sometimes indicated with simply a number “3”. Sep 21, 2022 at 21:22
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They're both slurs rather than phrase marks I think. Non-slurred triplets could have a bracket, or have just the number.– LaurenceSep 21, 2022 at 22:09
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The bottom ones do not denote triplets; that's what the 3s do. The slurs denote legato and phrasing.– AaronSep 21, 2022 at 23:29
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Just legato. There COULD be an overall phrase mark as well. But there isn't.– LaurenceSep 22, 2022 at 13:37
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1@Tim Of course but I was referring to them being slurred together in groups of 3’s as opposed to groups of 6’s in the first image. I see the phrasing marks over the notes as independent of the “3” numbers on the bottom. Sep 22, 2022 at 16:17