# Is it feasible to play at the required tempo this measure on *classical piano* ? At which maximum tempo could you play?

This measure is from a score that was on the web a few years ago, on the Super Mario World "castle" theme.

Is it feasible to play the measure shown at the required tempo (quarter note = 127) on a classical piano ?

Remark : it is really necessary to play at this speed to make it sound very lovely, as we could check if we "accelerate" from a recorded sequence on a digital piano keyboard.

On my side, with important training, I could play it at speed of quarter note=80. So I should increase by 60 %, which looks quite impossible. (I can play most exercices of the first part of Hanon method at a tempo of 160 instead of the proposal maximum of 108, after a huge training. So I don't know how I could improve speed for this score)

What is the maximum speed that you could obtain ?

• Before we make assumptions, many instruments use the grand staff. Is this in fact to be played on a piano? May 8, 2023 at 14:57
• It is completely possible to play it at that speed. Why wouldn’t it be?
– ojs
May 9, 2023 at 1:51
• @MathieuKrisztian yes I can. Like I wrote, it sounds like blurry scrambled mess and I think that the person on the video plays it slower because it sounds better that way, not because they can't play faster. But playing the entire passage at that speed would be exhausting. I don't understand the answer either, but it's the accepted one so I'm not going to challenge it.
– ojs
May 9, 2023 at 10:20
• @MathieuKrisztian My fingering is 2-1-2-3-1-2-3-2-3-5-1-3 5-3-5-3-1-5-3-2-3-2-1-3. If you think about positions the changes happen at 5th and 11th note of the first cluster and the 6th and 12th of the second one, but it's more like continuous movement. I'm sure others have different fingerings that fit their anatomy and technique better. At that speed everything blurs into legato anyway.
– ojs
May 9, 2023 at 16:54
• @MathieuKrisztian more like "a moderately skilled pianist with just a bit of practice". Somewhere near the top of RCM scale. Seriously, the part isn't that difficult. You just need to practice more than the Hanon exercises.
– ojs
May 9, 2023 at 20:45