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Chopin Op. 9 No. 3, measure 27

From Chopin Nocturne Op. 9 No. 3 in B Major.

Is the phrase in red an unmarked 21-tuple? I can’t figure out how it would be correctly read as 32nd notes, so I assume so—just want to make sure.

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Yes, it's a 21-tuplet, but it need not be played in strict time; it can be treated something like a cadenza, though not quite that freely.

These occur quite frequently in Chopin, and discussion on how to play them can be found in

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It's just a 'fit all these in' - plet. Happens a lot in piano music. Don't try to be strictly metronomic, just make sure the underlying 8ths are vaguely the right tempo.

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  • I would go as far as saying that Chopin (and others like him) should never be played with a metronome. You have to feel the rhythm and play at the tempo that fits the moment. Save the metronome for the likes of Bach and Mozart. Romantic period pieces require more flexibility if you don't want to sound like a robot playing them. Commented May 27 at 16:30
  • It can be useful to practice Romantic music with the metronome, just to establish a base line for subsequent flexibility. Those L.H notes shouldn't be totally disconnected from the previous pulse of the music.
    – Laurence
    Commented May 27 at 20:10

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