Synth sounds that make good solo instruments but don't mimic pianos, organs etc?

Question

I have played a lot of piano, some organ and a fair few synths in my time, and have yet to ever find a synth patch that

• makes a good solo instrument (i.e. like a piano, you can play an entire concert on just a piano and people regularly do)
• doesn't sound like some kind of piano, electric piano or organ

I've started to think that no such thing exists. If you think I'm right then why do you think this is? Possible reasons for the phenomenon, off the top of my head:

• they're the simplest useful form of keyboard sound. piano and epiano sounds are intentionally fairly simple, which makes them more versatile - the actions of the player have a greater effect. At the other end of the scale you have massive polyphonic synth sounds with wave sequencing and delay effects. Of course less extreme/prescriptive synth patches are possible, but the simpler you make them, the more they tend to sound like pianos/organs anyway. And super simple sounds like a pure sine wave aren't rich enough to work with. (This argument ignores velocity sensitivity).
• evolution. The piano has evolved over hundreds of years to be an amazing performance instrument. Synths haven't.
• cultural. People expect to listen to the same piano for hours, but we expect synths to change patches.
• social. Most synth nerds aren't that good on piano, and vice versa. (Some exceptions of course!)

On the other hand, I would love to be proven wrong on the whole hypothesis. If you think I'm wrong, please provide a link to a sound/patch that meets my requirements.

Answer 1

The synth patches that you want will exist if you build them yourself. :)

You might consider studying some of the older musicians such as Keith Emerson and Rick Wakeman. At that time, people usually rolled their own sounds, building them from the basic four waveforms. Also, you might read up on "additive synthesis" which has to do with the theory behind building your own sounds from scratch. In Wakeman especially you will find a kindred spirit; he says many of the same things you do.

Answer 2

I think subtle expression possibilities is the key. Piano, electric piano and organs have a large and very finely controllable dynamic sound range¹ (either by true continuous 𝆑𝆓𝆏 spectrum right "at the fingertips", or lots of of possible organ stop/drawbar combinations), so you can always counteract where it might get tiresome, without however necessarily creating an obvious and possibly distracting sound effect like the tweaking of a synthesiser's filters all too often constitutes.

Now, the question is what possibilities would a synth have to incorporate such subtle expression. The most obvious thing is to make some parameter[s] controllable particularly fine and intuitively – that's why almost all synths now have at least a big mod wheel today, usually in fact some joystick etc.. That works really well for melodic playing, but quickly runs into trouble when you try to serve more of a pianist role:

• Using your left hand to tweak such controls is a big problem when you need it to play accompaniment, especially if there's no bass (which you could play with your feet on organ pedals)
• Even when the parameter is steered by expression pedal or channel-aftertouch so you have both hands free to play notes, you'll only be able to add expression uniformly to all played notes. That makes it impossible to properly emphasise the "virtual voices" that are hidden in a well-arranged piano or organ score, short of selective dynamic emphasis or placement of voices on different manuals.

So that doesn't do the trick. Now, we could obviously copy the ways you control expression on the traditional instruments. All keyboards are velo-sensitive nowadays and can be used to control piano patches reasonably well. Great! Then, what do we route this to? Most obvious would be just VCA volume control, but that's hardly versatile enough. Filter cutoff and modulation / vibrato are good candidates (not without reason the typical mod-wheel parameters!) but here you'd really need continuous control, over the entire note duration. That's precisely what velo can not. Effectively, the only thing velo control does really well is a combination of volume and timbre – and then it'll invariably be a "piano-like" sound, at least roughly. With chorus-ey modulation it'll sound like DX-7 e-piano², with short sustain like something between marimba and clavinet. At any rate not "typical synthetic".

For organ-like expression much the same issue: an additively composed sound will sound organ-like. Combining multiple manuals meaning you're effectively switching between patches, as you ruled out.

So, does that mean synths can't offer anything new when it comes to "consistent solo sounds"? I think they can! Parameters like filters and modulation, perhaps also intonation per-note can give amazing expressive possibilities. Only problem is, it used to be technically infeasible! Well, polyphonic aftertouch has long been doable, but the CS-80 wasn't exactly affordable. It's just really difficult to implement something like that with analogue technology.

This is the digital age however! The Haken Continuum has been around a while already – again, not quite cheap; also it's not really a keyboard-thing. But there are a whole lot of innovations in more-or-less–keyboard-like controllers. The Seabord adds some keyboard haptics to the continuum concept.

But my favourite candidate are Andrew McPherson's TouchKeys. You retain a true familiar keyboard, but with two dimensions of expression added for each note. (Saidly the first production was just the KickStarter-backed one; there's a waiting list for a second run right now.)

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¹Crucially: unlike when just turning some volume pot, pianos actually change the sound character a lot depending on how hard you strike the tones.

²Coming to think of it, the DX-7 may be the "historical synth" coming closest to what you seek.

Answer 3

You're probably right. Even the most wonderful non-piano/organ synth patch would be too much if used for an entire concert (as would panpipes though). Many advanced synth performers will often tweak the patch as they play, equipment permitting.

Sound wise, most synth sounds are going to emulate instruments that are either struck, plucked, bowed or blown, so one can always argue most synth patches resemble traditional instruments, especially the patches in the General Midi set, since those patches are designed to.

A pure sine wave would sound like an organ anyway (like Close To Me by The Cure).

Synths are prevalent in dance music (Bowed string sounds, 'wobble' bass, sounds that sound like vacuum cleaners, etc). Synth enthusiasts are keen to develop unique sounds, not reuse existing ones (in contrast to using a sampler).

And yes, many synth musicians have under-developed keyboard skills, compared to concert pianists. The synth enthusiast (I like to think) is more focused on creativity and originality, with ambitions more biased towards music production than live performance.

Answer 4

Apart of the wise responses here, I've found that the simulators of brass instruments can give good results as solo instrument. Thinks like flughel, horns, flutes, basson etc. Although I suspect this may depend greatly on the specific synthesizer. By the way using here the software emulator of the Korg M1, from Korg itself, exact outcome as the original but at a ridiculously low price

Answer 5

Part of the reason is that synths are most often used in electronic music, which is usually highly polyphonic and emphasizes the interactions between multiple layers instead of focusing on one sound. As a result, synth sounds aren't created to be powerful across the entire realm of musical functions, but instead to do one thing really well and play nicely with other sounds.

Another reason may be that pianos use different types of strings for different registers. For example, most pianos I've seen use thin wires for the middle octaves, but thick springs or coils for the low bass. If pianos used the same type of string throughout their entire voices, the low and high notes would probably not be suitable for solo performances. In a sense, a piano is a couple of different string instruments, put together as one.

In contrast, a synth is typically programmed to use the exact same algorithm for all its octaves, meaning that synths typically only sound good in a narrow register. So, for example, a bass synth will sound thin in high registers, while a lead synth would probably get very muddy and detuned in bass registers. To make a synth playable for a solo instrument, one would probably need to program it to behave slightly differently in different registers, like a piano.

Answer 6

Keith Emerson's Minotaur patch (the "Lucky Man" patch)

Stevie Wonder's "clavinet kazoo" patch ("Boogie on, Reggae Woman")

Bjork and Emilie Simon both often feature natural sounds that sound synthetic, and process natural sounds into very synthetic sounds. Tom Waits as well. I consider these "synthetic" sounds because, technically, they are even if their primary waveform sources are derived natural sounds.

Listened to any Crystal Castles?