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Almost all bowed string instruments have a sound post. It is said that this adds stability to the instrument and also "transmits vibrations to the bottom".

Interestingly though, guitars do not have such a thing – neither flat-top acoustic guitars nor the more violin-resembling archtop ones. So apparently a sound post isn't really necessary for a stable, well-sounding string instruments.

Yet it seems vital for violin / viola / cello / double bass. Why is this?

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The crucial difference in this regard, between guitars and bowed strings, is in which direction the strings vibrate. A bow causes vibration in the plane you're moving (it moves the string by friction: the string sticks on the rosin and is "dragged along" some way; perpendicular vibrations are strongly damped by the bow-hair). Because you can't vary the bowing angle a lot, this roughly means the vibration is along the top.
A plucked string has no such restriction, it can in principle vibrate in any direction – at first in the direction you've plucked, which tends to be both down and sidewards; but afterwards the plane of vibration can move, there might even be circular oscillation. However, the transversal components often decay a bit faster, because the string can “slip” quite well on the metal frets and thus loose energy in friction, whereas vertical movement is completely prevented (unless you don't press down strong enough).

Direction of the vibration of instrument strings

The vertical movement in the guitar is, in a way, much easier to exploit: simply put in a few supporting bars, then the entire top will vibrate coherently with the string and emit a lot of volume. With transversal movement this wouldn't work nearly as well: the top would merely “slide around”, but this doesn't excite a lot of air movement, which is one of the reasons it sounds rather poor when you try to play guitar with a bow.

String instruments take for this reason another approach. First to note, the much higher bridge. This acts as a lever. The instrument's interior is also built quite differently: we can to first approximation describe the sound post as a rigid fulcrum, whereas the bass bar supports the top but in particular also picks up the bridge's vibrations and distributes them over the top, much like the bars in a guitar.

Action of a sound post, with "lever-bridge"

So that's the purpose of a sound post: it makes sure the body vibrates in a way that's actually useful, despite the string vibrations being in a somewhat badly suited direction.


If we look at it a bit more closely, the sound post is in fact not quite such a rigid support. It sure does transmit some energy to the bottom. But this is more of a side effect; the bottom does by design not spread sound as well as the top. Also, note that the bottom will vibrate with opposite phase (whenever the top goes down, the bottom goes up). That's really important for a full sound – it allows the instrument to “pump” the air, like a balloon inflating and deflating. If bottom and top were completely in phase, it would be just like a single sheet vibrating, which can only send out a little dipole radiation – not very efficient, in particular at low frequencies; the instrument would sound very thin.

What a sound post does not do (though some people will tell you so) is “transmit the high notes to the instrument bottom, while the low notes are amplified by the top”. You can actually turn around the strings and it doesn't sound dramatically different, because the bridges fulcrum-action works more or less the same from both directions.


In fact, some left-handed players use right-handed instruments with inverted strings (if they don't, like most do, just play like a right-handed person). There are a few problems with this, but the sound post isn't actually the biggest (the asymmetric finger board is rather more obstructive). In fact, a classical guitar will suffer more, sound-wise, from turning around the strings than a violin does, because in a guitar it is the vertical motion that's directly used on each side of the bridge.

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  • I'm a little confused by the last part. If the sound post is transmitting the vibrations, then the bottom will be in phase with the top (well, it will be off by the time it takes to propagate through the post, but close enough). In the absence of a sound post I could see the air movement causing the phases to be opposite ... but not both. Maybe something to do with the post being off-center, but intuitively I am not sure how the interior volume could change with that setup.
    – user28
    Sep 14, 2014 at 21:54
  • @MatthewRead: the bottom will be in phase with a small spot on top: where the energy is passed from the "treble" leg of the bridge to the sound post. A much larger part of the top is however in phase with the other leg, because a) it's not fixed by the sound post and b) the bass bar readily distributes the vibration over a large area, more quickly than the thin wood alone on the other side. Sep 14, 2014 at 22:25
  • I've heard that having a sound post is also essential for tuning the wolf tones. Sep 15, 2014 at 21:52
  • @luserdroog: well... yeah. But this is a bit like saying "the engine is essential for tuning the weight distribution of a car": it does have a great influence on the weight distribution, but obviously that's not the reason we put engines in cars. Sep 16, 2014 at 0:21
  • Jim Woodhouse sometimes gives talks at science festivals etc. to open up his group's research work on bowed instruments to a general audience. One of the things he does is to dislodge the sound post while a violinist plays. As you can guess from leftroundabout's wonderful answer the effect is dramatic - the sound drops off immediately.
    – dumbledad
    Sep 16, 2014 at 8:00
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The sound of a bowed instrument (violin family) is not the sound of the vibrating string but the vibrating wood it activates through the bridge. The high notes come from the wood between the treble foot of the bridge and the top of the sound post. That is why you get no sound if the sound post is directly under the foot the bridge. It also is why the sound the high notes mellows as the sound post is moved away from the foot of the bridge. The bass bar helps the bass foot of the bridge to activate the entire top of the instrument to produce bass notes. The f-holes create between them a central area of the top activated by both feet to produce midrange pitches. Tweeter, Woofer, Midrange. With a guitar you hear the sound of the vibrating string amplified by the sound box. That is why bowing a guitar does not produce a sound like violin family instruments.

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  • Not true. If the soundpost is placed directly under the foot of the bridge, you will still get a sound, albeit a rather cramped one. Try it yourself. Jun 8, 2017 at 20:11

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