# Relation of the diminished chord to the circle of fifths?

Within each key there are seven chords. If I understand it correctly the "first" six correspond to the minor and major variants of the current key and its immediate neighbors in the circle of fifths, i.e. standing on their respective tonics (e.g. for C these are C, a, F, d, G and e). But the seventh one is the diminished, and I'm not clear on what I should think of that one. At what point in a chord progression would it make sense? Could I use it in moving e.g. from C to G, e, D or b?

The diminished chord has the function of a dominant chord and wants to go back to the tonic chord (the I chord). For example in the key of C major, Bo would want to go to C.

If you're familiar with the concept of the dominant 7th chord (V7) this should make sense as the dominant 7th chord also goes to the tonic the diminished triad is contained within the dominant 7th chord. In the key of C, the dominant chord would be built of G and G7 would contain the notes:

G  B  D  F


If you were to build just a Bo triad you would have the notes

B  D  F


Which you can see are all in the G7.

So pretty much anywhere you could use a G in the key of C major you could also use Bo.A simple example of a progression you could use a Bo in the key of C major is:

C  F  Bo C

• A good note to make is that the vii° chord is also called the "leading tone chord" because it wants to lead back to the I chord Apr 13, 2015 at 15:33

Relation of the diminished chord to the circle of fifths?

It's the chord between IV and iii in the circle of fifths harmonic sequence:

I IV viio iii iv ii V I

At what point in a chord progression would it make sense?

You can break out two major categories of harmonic progressions: functional and sequential.

Functionally the viio can be treated as dominant harmony. It can lead to the tonic chord, frequently it is in first inversion: viio6 I or viio6 i. You can think of this diminished chord as a sort of V7 dominant seventh chord, but with the dominant omitted.

When viio is used sequentially it does not act as a dominant. The circle of fifth sequence above is the primary example.

Keep in mind that when in a minor key the position of the diminished triad changes to the iio chord...

i iio III iv V vi viio i

...the iio chord is diatonic and functions as a sub-dominant normally in first inversion and moving to a dominant chord iio6 V.

Notice that in minor keys there can also be a viio like in major keys. That particular diminished chord is chromatic and is created by raising the ^7 tone of the scale to create a proper leading tone. viio in minor has the same function as in major acting as a kind of dominant chord.

There are cases in minor harmony where viio isn't used but the unaltered bVII chord is used. For example when the bass descends from the tonic to dominant in minor.

And finally, regarding sequential harmony in minor keys, generally use the unaltered diatonic chords, the major dominant triad may be used to create cadential harmony, so the circle of fifths sequence would be...

i iv bVII bIII bVI iio V i

First, lose this idea than being 'in a key' restricts the notes and chords that may be used. It merely establishes a framework of which chords are plain diatonic vanilla, which are exotically chromatic. It would be a very sad, restricted musical world if every chromatic chord made us leap into another key where it was predictably diatonic!

Back to your question. The vii chord can be usefully considered as the upper structure of a V7. It contains the two main tension notes of a dominant 7th, the leading note and the 4th degree of the scale, forming the tritone interval with its strong tendency to resolve to the root and 3rd of the tonic chord.

Extend the diminished triad into a full diminished 7th chord (and yes, although it contains the b6 of the tonic scale, it doesn't mean we've entered or even visited another key - yet!) and all sorts of interesting possibilities open up. But that's another lesson.

There's also flat ii, flat iii, flat iv, flat v, flat vi....all in the same key. It's not that there are only seven tones it's that we commonly harmonize the 7 scale tones. The cool thing about a diminished chord is that every note in the chord can be called the root note.

• I think your last sentence applies to fully diminished 7th chords but not diminished triads. For example, any combination of B, D, and F is almost certainly a B dimished chord, but add in a G# or Ab (depending on the key) and it becomes ambiguous, or determined by the lowest sounding note. Aug 26, 2017 at 23:28
• You appear to be confusing dim chords and dim intervals - which are certainly confusing, but not exactly related in the way your answer portrays.
– Tim
Aug 27, 2017 at 6:52
• @IHeartPoodles, I think there's a good answer here, but more elaboration is necessary. In order to fully answer user66554's question, could you describe (a) some examples of diminished chords that are built off, e.g., the ♭vi and (b) some examples of how diminished chords resolve (including the vii o chord, as this is what user66554 originally asks about)? Aug 27, 2017 at 14:23