# How do other magnets affect pickups?

What would happen if you take a magnet to a pickups sound through an amp? Would it kill the pickup or have any affect at all?

A simplified picture of how an electric pickup works is that: the magnet in the pickup induces the string (steel/nickel alloy) to be a magnet itself. When you pluck the, string, the magnetized string moves relative to the coils in the pickup. Moving a magnet near a circuit causes a voltage across the circuit (or equivalently a current for a closed circuit). This voltage is then amplified by the amplifier. The complications involve the fact that the magnitization of the string is higher when the the string is closer to the pickup, and less when further away, so the idea of the string just "being a magnet that moves around" doesn't capture the whole picture. The key point is that moving the string around changes the magnetic field that the coils experience, and thus produce a voltage.

Moving any kind of magnet near the coils will induce a voltage across them.

For a hand held magnet, it would probably be hard to move the magnet fast enough to produce a sound (you'd have to shake it back and forth 10's of times per second), but a strong enough magnet moving fast enough might produce enough voltage to overload an amplifier if it is connected.

Holding the magnet near the pickup while moving string will either enhance (if the magnet is aligned such that it is attracted to the pickup) or degrade the gain in the pickup since the external magnet's field will add to the pickup's field either "in phase" or "out of phase". Horse-shoe style pickups have magnetic elements both above and below the strings to affect the "shape" of the magnetic field near the strings.

• It is hard to move around a handheld magnet fast enough to be audible. But if you just hold it close to the pickup and tap slightly on it, you will hear a thud, similar to when you hit the strings with your flat hand. Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17
• For anyone appreciating nitty gritty physics details, current and voltage actually aren't equivalent, and a current creates a magnetic field, while a voltage with no current does not. it might be interesting to see if a small magnet attached to the chuck of a portable drill could be made to induce an audible frequency in a guitar pickup. Jul 1, 2015 at 10:07
• I don't want to add another answer because this already answers the question well enough, but you might want to add some information about the e-bow: ebow.com/home.php which does exactly that. It's an electromagnet which is designed to excite your guitar strings and can be used to create some lush sounds Jul 1, 2015 at 10:37
• @leftaroundabout if you've actually done this, I'd like to hear about the results of what you've done; in particular I'm not sure if readily available magnets are in any way "dangerous" to the amp (or pickup magnets themselves).
– Dave
Jul 1, 2015 at 12:48
• @ToddWilcox reminds me of this youtube.com/watch?v=B6yLPoMWunc -- note the 0:47 mark where he holds the drill body against the strings -- the electric motor inside the drill involves a rapidly spinning magnet, and I don't hear that the pickups are catching it.
– Dave
Jul 1, 2015 at 12:50

I've added different types of magnets to both single coil and Humbucker pickups on several different occasions on Strats, Teles, and few different Les Pauls. It has always added a more beefy, fuller sound with brighter, clearer tones like the guitar was actually twice as loud as before with a splitter on the Humbuckers. It made a smooth and fat sound with a treble bleed; it made the treble crystal clean and clear. I have good to awesome results doing this and I didn't go by all the theories and text book indication. I went by the real life results — nothing technical involved at all. I just did it, so live a little. Don't be afraid to do your own thing to discover your own custom original sound innovation.

One of the methods a person may use to magnetically charge a pickup pole when winding your own pickups is to stroke the pole with a strong magnet and the pole becomes magnetized itself by this action. With that thought in mind, I would advise caution about playing with a valued pickup and an external magnet, because you can also reverse the polarity and or weaken the poles magnetic field with out meaning to. I often encourage experimentation as a learning tool but I'm also interested in not causing harm to an instrument. Please take care when you fool with your pickups They are quite fragile.