# Violin Tuning- shouldn't the the A-string be tuned to A5? Why A4?

G3 up by a perfect fifth is D4, D4 up by P5 is A5!! A5 up by P5 is E5. It's all good except that the A string is tuned to A4, which is 440Hz. Why should not be tuned to A5?! Why is the tuning G3, D4, A4 and E5 instead of G3, D4, A5 and E5?

• A5 is higher than E5. The lowest letter name for any octave number is C, so the perfect fifth above D4 is an A within the same octave number. – Pat Muchmore Dec 8 '15 at 11:42
• Thanks, Pat, Aaron, User25119, Todd and Phil. . Needless to say, I am still to attend a class with a teacher. Curiosity got the better of me. I have been reading the notes are arranged from A to G and assumed the octave number changes at the G/A boundary. My mistake. Thanks. – Ananth Padmanabhan Dec 9 '15 at 4:29
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If the comment and existing answer still don't make it clear, maybe a picture:

As user25119 wrote, the octave numbers change when you go from B to C. So that means the D and the A highlighted below should have the same octave number.

• The octave starting with middle C has octave number 4, so the octave from middle C up to the B above middle C is C4 D4 E4 F4 G4 A4 B4.
• The octave above that, of course, is octave number 5, which is why the high E on the violin is E5.

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• I love that picture. How to tune a Violin using a piano: Twiddle the knobs until they sound completely wrong. Weep. Smash the violin until the bottom half falls off. Then, with a peculiar smile, take some green string and tie the pegs to the nearest piano and walk slowly away. There, I tuned the violin, and it's with the piano. – Phil H Dec 8 '15 at 18:07

D4 up by a perfect fifth is A4. The octave number in the scientific note naming system only advances when crossing the B/C boundary, so the C major scale notes available on the violin (notes on open strings marked) are

G3(open) A3 B3 C4 D4(open) E4 F4 G4 A4(open) B4 C5 D5 E5(open) F5 ...