On my Cello Salut D'amour by Elgar score, it has upside-down down bow symbols on it. Does this just mean up bow? I have this on other pieces too:

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Salut d'amour, Op.12 (Elgar, Edward)

  • Mainz: Schott, 1899, 1901. Plate 26657.
  • Violine (transposed, D major)

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    Could you add a picture?
    – user28
    Apr 2, 2016 at 20:43
  • I'm confused. Doesn't the example show regular upbow symbols and upside-down upbow symbols? Why does the text ask about upside down downbow symbols? @nath, are you sure about your edit?
    – phoog
    Dec 10, 2019 at 17:02
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    Hey @phoog, I'm really sorry! I was about to post a question about my example and then I saw: "right, it has already been asked and lacking of a picture..." So I did the edit that is completely wrong. Once again, sorry! And thanks for pointing it out! -> now I can still ask my question when I fixed this in a minute or two :-) I also got the right example.
    – nath
    Dec 10, 2019 at 19:59
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    @phoog. Ok I fixed it, needs review, but I posted my question here Upside-down up-bow.
    – nath
    Dec 10, 2019 at 21:05

1 Answer 1


That is the french down bow sign, which is the same thing as normal down bow.

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    Yes, they have the same meaning. But this is not "french" but a tradition of certain music publishers and engravers, notably Durand.
    – ogerard
    Apr 4, 2016 at 4:26
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    I did some searching online, and that's what I found. Considering that Durand is a French publisher, that is not surprising.
    – ryanyz10
    Apr 6, 2016 at 5:30
  • According to OP, the example is from a Russian publisher, which also supports the notion that it is a French convention. Dec 10, 2019 at 6:17

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