# What are (no3) chords?

I have been reading some sheet music and I see that there are chords like C2(no3). I just play the Cmaj chord with a 2 (d note) added. I'm trying to play these chords properly but I don't understand this (no3). Also when I see chords like C2 do I read this Csus2 (C, D, G notes) or Cmaj2 (C, D, E, G notes). Sry if this isn't clear. The chord is in the verses of this song.

## 4 Answers

The 'no' notation tells you that that chord tone is not present so this is telling you the 3rd of the chord is not there. Any chord with 'no' notation is improper and abuses the notation as it misrepresents what chord is actually there.

Your example is a good example in why this is the case. First of C2 is ambiguous. It could be Csus2, but I gaurntee they are actually referring to a C9. In either case, saying there is no third is misleading as:

• In the Csus2 there is no third.

• In C9 the third is a very important chord tone along with the 7th and 9th so it's not really a C9, but a C7sus2.

• C7sus2 = C,D,G,Bb C9=C,E,G,Bb,D. – Tim Sep 29 '16 at 8:19
• In praise charts like these, C2 is a three note chord. You wouldn't see C2 and play C9 or C7, because those chords have innate tension - they sound like they need to resolve somewhere. C2 doesn't have that tension, but it does have a thicker sound than a plain open fifth. – Brian THOMAS Sep 29 '16 at 13:35
• So, based on Brian's comment, I would guess that this is a C5add9. A very nice and simple quintal chord. – Basstickler Sep 29 '16 at 14:14
• @Dom - Definitely. There are plenty of examples of issues with our notation system, which we often see posted on this site as questions, that result in basically having to write a note on your score. Quartal and Quintal chords obviously don't conform to the development of the rest of chord theory but you'd think that someone would have come up with a good system by now. – Basstickler Sep 29 '16 at 14:42
• @tptcat A5 would be an A power chord (root, 5, octave). I think that if those types of chords were more common, we’d be more likely to see a formally recognized notation for them. In most situations we see that quartal and quintel chords are actually just voicings of chords that are triad based like the majority of the rest of our harmonic system, such as in So What, where it is a quartally voiced D-7. So ultimately we’re most often thinking of these chords in a way that doesn’t require any new notation. What would be required is notation for voicings, which our standard notation doesn’t do. – Basstickler Nov 5 '17 at 7:39

Given the genre and the song, the chord is almost certainly a Csus2. On the Tomlin recording, there's no 7th that I can hear.

As to why they wrote it that way, I can't be sure. I've played a lot of similar charts, and there's not a lot of agreement on how to notate second chords. I've seen C2, Csus2, C2(no3), Cadd2 and Cadd9 all used for the same end result. To be honest, for your (our) purpose, the differences are mostly unimportant. Play CDG by default, and experiment with adding E. If it sounds good, it's right.

I am not a 'Piano Musician', however, (no3) appears to me, that the 'Sheet Music, is telling you to move out of the 'first Octave, and play the chord 2 octaves higher, than the one you are in... for the original way the music was intended.

A #3 Chord', is a minor Chord, where the 3rd degree is 'flatted. A Major 'triad, is a chord comprised of the 1st, 3rd,& 5th degree / C, E, G. A 'minor triad' is C, Eb, G., and/or, depending on the 'Scale Root Choice, a no.#3, in the Key of 'A' would be the C minor.