I'm learning Beethoven's 5th symphony 2nd movement, and I have some questions?

What tempo is andante con moto?

How do you read the 32nd and 64th note? For example, you count 16th notes with 1 e and a 2 e and a....

What's the difference between 3/4 and 3/8 time when using a metronome?

  • As I mention in my answer, Andante Con Moto is a character indication not a tempo marking. – Neil Meyer Mar 31 '17 at 12:19
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    @Neil Meyer, I partially disagree--Con Moto is a character indication, but Andante is a tempo marking. Andante indicates that the piece is relatively slow (slower than the middle-speed Moderato) but faster than Adagio. – Dekkadeci Mar 31 '17 at 12:26
  • @NeilMeyer - if andante is not a tempo mark, albeit vague, why is it on my metronomes? – Tim Mar 31 '17 at 15:55
  • So what about counting 32nd and 64th notes? – Nabeel Rasheed Apr 1 '17 at 21:49

Andante con moto isn't an exact tempo in b.p.m. It's a vague (on purpose) idea of how a tempo can be arrived at. Listen to several recordings of that movement, and you'll realise they are not all at the same speed.

The metronome can be set to whatever you require. With 3/4, it can work so that each click represents one crotchet, or a beat. With 3/8, the same can be used, although the 8s - quavers - are usually shorter, but not necessarily half of what a crotchet is in a different piece.Check b.p.m. at the top of the piece.You could even set it so that each crotchet is represented by 2 clicks.


Andante means at a walking pace, Con means with and Moto means movement. So it basically means... At a walking pace with movement.

So you would probably have a slight accent on the strong parts of beats and then no accent on the down beats as to accentuate the idea of movement. A slightly more loud upbeat followed by a slightly softer down-beat. It should just have a general effect of movement at a not brisk pace.

That would be my interpretation if I ever saw such a character indication for a guitar score, the piano players in the audience here may have a view more specific to the piano.

And take note Andante con moto is a character indication, not a tempo marking.

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