I play guitar and trombone. This question does not concern me, but why don't more instruments with a wider range of notes (e.g. pianos) use alto clef? With C on the middle line, it makes so much sense. So, why not?

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    Would you also like other clefs such as tenor and soprano?
    – badjohn
    Apr 20, 2017 at 20:51
  • @badjohn No, just this one.
    – ckjbgames
    Apr 20, 2017 at 21:09
  • Pianos are fine - their middle line IS middle C, so alto clef would probably make the bass clef contain too many leger lines.
    – Tim
    Apr 21, 2017 at 10:12
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    Because violas use the Alto Clef, and nobody wants to be associated with them (cheap musician humor) Apr 21, 2017 at 12:24

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Yes! It is criminal that C clefs aren't taught more.

But first, the rationale for C clefs. Here is middle C shown in treble, soprano, mezzo-soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, and bass clefs:

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Since sopranos will be singing above middle C, their middle C is correspondingly the lowest of the C clefs to give all the staff space above middle C. In this way, the C clef minimizes the need for leger lines. The same is true of baritone clef (the final C clef above); since baritones mostly sing below middle C, middle C is placed highest in the staff to minimize the need for leger lines.

As ttw says, the lack of alto clef is partly tradition and partly convenience. (I'll add one more: partly ignorance, because most musicians don't know them!) But I think that all C clefs should be taught to serious practicing musicians, and here's why:

We saw above that a C can occupy seven distinct spots on the staff. And since there are seven pitches, this has incredible potential for helping students transpose.

For instance:

  • Imagine you're a flute player, and all you have is a B-flat clarinet part. Since the clarinet is a transposing instrument, the B-flat you see on the clarinet part is actually a C. So what is your flute player to do? Just stick an alto clef in front and mentally change the key signature. Now suddenly they can read the exact same part as the clarinet, but they're transposing on the fly without really knowing it.

Long story short, since C can occupy all seven spots on the staff thanks to C clefs, fluent knowledge of C clefs allows you to immediately transpose to any pitch level.

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    Well, yes and no. I've played plenty of scores (cello) where the composer or editor thought it was helpful -- or maybe just cool -- to jump clefs all over the place. In fact, any decent musician has no problem with a stack of ledger lines, and it's really not necessary to keep shifting middle-C just to put notes on the staff lines. Just ask any violinist or clarinetist. Apr 21, 2017 at 12:26
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    @CarlWitthoft I'm talking about both: transposing by shifting C's written location. (The only difference is it isn't always concert C.)
    – Richard
    Apr 21, 2017 at 13:24
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    But my original draft of this post said "maybe people disagree," so I expected some downvotes. But I stand by my claim! :-)
    – Richard
    Apr 21, 2017 at 13:24
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    @Tim This method works for all instruments in all situations. Let's say a conductor sees a part written for alto sax and needs to transpose it to concert pitch on the fly. Don't worry about transposing the sixth, just read the sax part in bass clef and mentally adjust the key signature; now the written C of the alto sax parts looks like an E flat! Or what if a B-flat Clarinet needs to play that alto sax part? They can read it in mezzo-soprano clef, and all the transposition is done for them.
    – Richard
    Apr 21, 2017 at 13:33
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    @CarlWitthoft "downvote for the claim that C-clefs should be taught and used more" Downvotes on answers on this site, if I understand correctly, means that the answer is not useful. So does that mean you think the claim that C-clefs should be taught and used more renders the answer useless? Wouldn't that be a pretty opinion-based assessment?
    – Divide1918
    Jan 1 at 16:07

I utterly disagree with the other opinions. The alto clef is not a superior device that is just underused because of unfortunate historical accident. Rather, it is particularly hard to read because it signifies almost but not quite the same thing as the common clefs (treble and bass).

To explain: the alto clef puts a C on the middle line. By itself, that's okay - pitch values and line position are obviously not intrinsically related, but only by arbitrary convention. So by itself it makes sense to anchor your scale wherever it allows you to get away with the fewest ledger lines.

But there's the rub: the alto clef is not used by itself. Almost everyone uses treble and bass clefs - even if you're a lifelong viola player, you'll almost certainly have started learning to read music via the more common clefs. And both of those put the C between two lines - in fact, right below or right above the middle line.

This makes is much harder that it has to be to sight-read melodic lines, because your entire mental model of the scale shifts around: in the alto clef, a C in the staff is now on a line rather than between lines, a D is between lines rather than on a line, and so on for the entire scale. This would be no problem if people read music by consulting the clef at the beginning of the line and then doing the math - but that's not how gestalt perception works. Most of the time, a musician will not even look at the clef on the far left side, but simply remember which type it was. We don't calculate quantities, we recognize shapes. And recognizing a shape when all the local indicators for what a pitch looks like are inverted is hard, because a lot of useful heuristics that your visual system could otherwise exploit simply don't work.

Disclaimer: I say this as an organist who frequently has to read all three clefs at the same time. It's so much harder than it has to be, it isn't even funny. In almost every case I would much prefer it if the middle system used a modern clef, no matter how many ledger lines it takes.

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    I agree. There is no inherent quality to either clef. But using many clefs in parallel will slow down our pattern recognition system and thus reading of sheet music.
    – Theo Tiger
    Apr 21, 2017 at 8:29
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    I disagree. I think people find the alto clef difficult because it is unfamiliar. Also I think that you could make the opposite argument about the placement of C in the treble and bass clefs. Having C just above the middle line in one and just above it in the other sounds like an illogical nightmare. But we cope don't we?
    – JimM
    Jun 30, 2018 at 9:38
  • Being unfamiliar is exactly why people find it difficult but it gets wrongfully dismissed as "needlessly complicated". It smells like a classic case of Hanlon's Razor— "Do not automatically attribute something to needless complexity or stupidity if it can be adequately explained by laziness."
    – user59346
    Oct 29, 2023 at 16:04

Partly tradition. Partly convenience. Note that middle C is exactly in the middle of the Grand Staff (Bass + Treble clefs.) To some extent, clefs are chosen to minimize ledger lines in the usual ranges of an instrument. (Well, maybe with an exception for violinists.)

  • There is the French violin clef.
    – badjohn
    Apr 20, 2017 at 20:52

The usual violin/bass split piano note system is centered around middle C, and a single system would be quite awful for representing the total range piano scores navigate for everything but the simplest kinds of music.

Others point to "tradition" but that's not just a red but a bright orange herring: in olden times ledger lines were not being used and consequently there were wagonloads of different clefs for numerous instrument ranges (cf LilyPond's "modern" clefs most of which were still in use in baroque times, and also look for "mensural clefs".

That nowadays we have economized on a quite smaller number of clefs is making it easier for musicians to exchange parts between instruments and for conductors to read scores fluently and for music teachers to demonstrate instrumentalist parts on the piano.

There are a few exceptions of course, viola being one where the score/fingering connection when using the alto clef is closer to what a violin does than, say, an octavated violin clef would provide. Using the alto clef for that reason is nicer for crossfiddlers than many other options (granted, a mezzosoprano clef would be even nicer, but then we get into clef proliferation again).

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