I'm trying to find a recorder, something affordable, to try and play some tunes.

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Something along those lines

Up until now I've mostly used basic plastic ones with ten holes, but it doesn't really cover the range I need. Carmelo Salemi seems to have a very wide range of notes, while at the same time using a portable instrument that doesn't seem too far from the ones I've used before. I'd rather not invest in a western concert flute yet even though I know it has more notes.

What's a good, entry-level portable recorder with two or three octaves?

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  • The conventional range of a recorder is about 2 1/2 octaves. If you really want three or more octaves, choose a different instrument. A recorder like your picture, in the middle of the price range for plastic instruments (say 50 - 100 USD), is a perfectly good "beginner" instrument which will also last you a lifetime - but if it doesn't do what you want, it's the wrong choice for you. – user19146 Jun 4 '17 at 5:00
  • @alephzero so are there other wind instruments one can grow towards that provide more octaves and approximately the same fingering? I was wondering if there existed a non-conventional recorder with more holes... but any other instrument that is comparable would work – MicroMachine Jun 4 '17 at 21:52

You might be following the evolution of the flute. First one key, then two, and before long many keys. Then Mr. Boehm came along and changed the flute forever. Skip the long evolution and get yourself a decent beginner C flute.

  • I just did actually! But the positioning of the fingers is totally new. – MicroMachine Jun 5 '17 at 5:01
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    The different fingering is the least of your problems when moving from recorder to flute! – Laurence Payne Jun 5 '17 at 8:06
  • Actually, more finger holes won't help increase your range- it doesn't on the flute and wouldn't on the recorder either. The range of a flute or a recorder depends on how high up the harmonic sequence you can achieve, which depends on the proportions of the instrument and how the air creates the tone. The extra holes of a Boehm flute are for ease and quality of chromatic tones and trills, not range. – Scott Wallace Jun 5 '17 at 20:50

Recorder music is usually written within a range of two octaves and a tone. Some music demands higher notes, and some instruments can obtain these higher notes. Two and a half is certainly possible, although the fingerings are somewhat awkward and they're quite difficult to play in tune.

Three octaves? I don't think I've ever heard of a recorder capable of three octaves. There are some physical conflicts between it being a recorder (and sounding like one) and having that kind of range capability.

One reason is because of the windway, which limits access to higher overblown registers which you can access on a transverse flute by modifying your embrochure. It's harder to play in the first place, but has more capability once you've mastered it.

You're not going to find something that actually has the same fingering as a recorder - fingering is fundamentally linked to the physics of the instrument. Recorder fingering is particularly tricky - if you learn a Boehm system woodwind instrument you'll find it's actually a lot simpler, because the keywork takes out some of the cross-fingerings and half-holings that recorder players are so used to.

Yamaha have recently launched a single-reed instrument with recorder fingering - the Venova - but it's not got any more range than a recorder has. Again, physics has got in the way (and they had to do some really weird engineering on it to make it work - it's actually got a split bore!)

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