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i have a question regarding D.C. al Fine with standard repeats. Let me try to explain this with an example.

Let's say i need to chart out a piece of music. Upon listening to the music, this is the structure:

  1. 8 measures of music with the second half (measure 5-8) the same as the first
  2. Followed by 5 measures of unique music
  3. Followed by 8 measures of music similar to 1

So, what i'm thinking when it comes to charting this down is:

  1. Chart the first 4 measures (1-4) and add a standard repeat open at 1 and close at 4 so that the 4 measures will be played twice
  2. Chart the next 5 measures (5-9)
  3. Add a D.C. al Fine at the end of measure 9 and add Fine at end of measure 4

My question is, when we go back to the start once we reach D.C. al Fine, will we still play the standard repeats or do we only play through it once?

I hope my question is clear enough :)

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  • Oki from my understanding, it states that when playing through during the D.C. al Fine, to only play the repeated section once. So my follow up question is, if i need it to play twice how should i write it?
    – Prem Raj
    Aug 23 '17 at 4:18
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Ok i found the answer. We have to add con rep. (include repetitions). senza rep. if we do not (though by convention D.C. al Fine defaluts to D.C. al Fine senza rep.)

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  • That's fine in 18th century classical writing. If you're writing a pop song today.there are no set conventions and your audience won't understand 'senza rep.' Aug 25 '17 at 9:29
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The 'no repeats after a DC' convention applies to the early Classical style, particularly in suites of dance-style movements, the presecessor of the symphony. It has connections to the convention of enclosing the Exposition, but not the Recapitulation of a Sonata form movement in repeats. There is dispute over whether this repeat in e.g. a Beethoven piano sonata is to be actually played, or whether it is merely a structural convention.

It is unlikely a modern 'classical' piece will use a DC, unless consciously emulationg an older style. A pop song might. You need to state 'make repeat on DC' or 'no repeat on DC'. It's also common to see 1st, 2nd and 3rd X endings to the first verse of a song, with an indication to proceed to the middle 8 after the 2nd ending, to the coda - possibly a repeat chorus with a key lift - after the 3rd. State what you want in plain English.

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