1. Please inform me of any textual evidence or transcript of Ligeti for this quote:

This piece reminds me of a lecture I heard Gyorgy Ligeti give on his woodwind quintet. He wrote a melody for the horn. Why? he asked. Because, he declared ecstatically, it is forbidden for modern music to have melodies. Xenakis wrote Jonchaies about four or five years later. I wonder if he wrote these snatches of melody with the same subversive glee. I also wonder if it is humanly impossible to play the parts as written.

  1. Some Post-/Modernist Music do shirk melodies , but not all do? Has anyone a convincing counterexample by a composer who composed atonal gratingly dissonant music? Can't 'tone rows' (and their transformations) be judged as melodies?

  2. Why did Ligeti write a melody then, if he truly believed this? As an act of defiance or rebellion?

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    Is it possible that Ligeti was being tongue-in-cheek? Something more along the lines of "I wrote a melody for the horn because [based on the music of many of my contemporaries, they seem to believe that] it is forbidden for modern music to have melodies." – Richard Dec 13 '17 at 22:15
  • What is micro-polyphony if not a surfeit of melody? – Dean Ransevycz Dec 13 '17 at 23:39
  • @Richard You may be right, but I wouldn't know. – Greek - Area 51 Proposal Dec 14 '17 at 7:59
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    Could you please find another source for this anecdote? Currently it’s quoting a random person on Reddit who is talking more about Xenakis than Ligeti, so we can only guess what Ligeti actually said or meant. – Bradd Szonye Dec 15 '17 at 2:28
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    @Canada-Area51Proposal, the following two statements are very different: (1) "I believe that melodies should be forbidden in modern music" and (2) "modern music believes melodies should be forbidden." Ligeti is stating the second, not the first. He is simply describing a status quo that he perceived to exist. In the quote, he does not express agreement with modern music's convention to forbid melodies. Basic context suggests the exact opposite: he wrote the piece because he disagreed with the status quo he described. – jdjazz Dec 15 '17 at 3:17

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