No matter how much I practised this etude, i just can't play it in the right speed. I play the piano for 12 years approx. and it just didn't work for me with this etude. Does someone have an idea for me?

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    Is this an issue with playing it at a consistent tempo, or a difficulty playing it too slow/too fast?
    – NReilingh
    Sep 22, 2012 at 16:37
  • It seems that you should remember first all the broken arppegios and then you should just play it all slowly from beginning to end and find the hand position which gives the best tone and agility. Good way is to watch other musicians playing and run scores on Sibelius and Finale software in various tempo.
    – VassiaAlk
    May 1, 2015 at 19:31

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The first step is obviously to memorize the piece. Play it absurdly slow (semiquaver = 20; no, I'm not joking). Practice by writing down the piece, check where your memory is weak and train more those parts. When you are able to write it down completely, without looking at the score, you've done half the job.

Second step is being able to master all the technical difficulties in the piece (it's an etude, after all). What I mean is something like this: practice the first four semiquavers in the first bar with your right hand, at least 100 times. When you are able to play those four notes at right speed, then do the same with the other four, and so on. You may want to hold a book with your free hand and read it, like Liszt did, since this is the most time-consuming step. Like mjibson said, don't be scared if you have to put an absurd amount of time for a single bar. It's normal. The only thing you have to keep an eye on is your arm: if it starts getting tired, stop immediately: it means you're doing something wrong. Change position, try using less muscles to do the work.

Third step is putting all together.

  1. First, make sure that you are able to play at the right speed every bar: check the first bar, stop a moment, then check the second bar, etc. If you meet difficulties, go back to step two and practice those elements in the bar that cause you troubles.
  2. Second, practice like this: first and second bars, second and third bars, third and fourth bars, and so on. Again, if there are problems, identify them and go back at the appropriate step. Since this etude is pretty fast, you may also want to chain three bars at time (1-2-3, 2-3-4, 3-4-5, ...).
  3. Only when you're playing it at the right speed you can start adding pedaling, dynamics, a little rubato here and there, etc.

The biggest challenge is the psychological one. Watching videos on youtube of 11 years old children playing this etude like a Bach's minuet may demoralize you. Seeing that after 10 hours of practice you only learnt that little bar may demoralize you. But the truth is that no one has learnt a Chopin's etude without putting in it days and herculean effort.


Frances Clark (a famous piano teacher) was asked a question about easy Chopin etudes. She replied (as documented in Questions and Answers) that his etudes only come in "hard, harder, and hardest". A graduate student in my piano program played a Chopin etude. He reported practicing 100 hours for a one minute performance. The Chopin etudes are highly difficult. The solution may be to: practice it for a few hundred hours in a disciplined manner (with metronome, slowly, high number of repetitions of short sections until perfect, etc.), or try it again in a few years once you are more skilled.

  • Anecdotally I also had lots of tempo problems with Chopin when I took lessons. To many weird combinations of triplets.
    – user28
    Sep 22, 2012 at 20:01

After doing all that is written above, go to the Barton Tutorial for Op. 10 #4 and watch carefully. I guarantee you a 100% improvement after a few hours of practice. Start with the hardest section first, as short a section as possible without breaking up the passage too much, hands alone is important, with metronome is important; 10 times at one speed with one hand, some hand 10 times next setting, same hand 10 times at next setting (30 times done). Change hands and repeat the process. Tip the metronome over and play it hands together and move on to the next hardest (short if possible) passage.


Well, I am currently practicing the "easier" etudes 10-3 and 24-12. Memorizing them is a first step. Then the most important part is musicality. These are pieces of music, not mountain climbing. Even with half the tempo they should sound great without hicks and wrong notes. Correct subtle pedalling and a mindful and careful Rubato is very important. Only absolutely relaxed arms and wrists allow rotatation of the hand, invisible with tempo, which gives speed. It needs months of practice. A good personal teacher should be considered.

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