# Transposing down

When transposing, if its transpose down a Major 6th from C. Do you take the key of Eb and say that a major 6th up is C as that would be a major 6th down. But cause your starting note is C if you took the key of C major it would be E natural?

• I need to know which note I class as my starting note even though I am transposing down. Jan 18, 2019 at 15:26

It's simple to use the lower note as the base (yes, base) note when calculating intervals. E♭ to C is the major 6th interval, so, yes, 'going down a maj 6th' would put the transposed key to E♭. Since C>E is a M3, the inverse (E>C) is a m6.

a major 6th down is a major 6th down, what ever the key will be.

Yes, Eb is correct. I'll offer another way to think about it: change the interval to half steps. Since a major 6th is 9 half steps no matter what key you're in, transposing down a major 6th means transposing down 9 half steps. It doesn't matter that the Eb is a minor key in C ... you're not in C anymore. C has gone from the tonic to the major 6th of Eb. Same pitch, different context.

My rule of thumb in general, however, is not to go over 6 half steps. So with your assignment, I'd actually invert and think about it as composing up a minor 3rd, which is 3 half steps and the exact same thing. (NOTE: this would be an octave higher of course, so this rule of thumb only applies when octave doesn't matter, such as transposing chord progressions. If you're doing a melody, the octave matters very much.)

• Could be in trouble with this method. Each and every interval has at least two names, giving a choice of note names. Eb>C is M6, whereas D#>C is diminished 7th. Counting semitones could end up as Eb, but could also be D#, a different written key altogether.Wrong answer in an exam! And what does 'Eb is a minor key in C' mean?
– Tim
Jan 19, 2019 at 6:15
• Well it wasn't really an exam answer, it was a way to think about it. Be it Eb or D#, M6 or dim7, the distance from C is still 9 half steps. Jan 21, 2019 at 0:28
• 'Eb is a minor key in C' was meant to address the last sentence in OP, pointing out that Eb isn't in the key of C major - OP said it would actually be E natural. If you're thinking in the key of C, Eb is minor tone, not a major 6th it anything else. Jan 21, 2019 at 0:34