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I am working with Schoenberg's Fundamentals of Musical Composition, amd would like to know if anyone is aware of a website that has the examples in audio format, or if some saint here has sequenced them up in a notation package ? Many thanks in advance !! CP

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    If all else fails, you could perhaps download MuseScore (musescore.org) and try it out yourself. It is free, and allows you to enter the notation yourself and play it back instantly. – user57228 Feb 4 at 16:05
  • well, there is more than this that I had thought! thank you for the title. you could look up on youtube the performance of the classic pieces. but probably you are looking for Schönbergs own examples. try to hear them by your inner ear ...this would be a good exercise. – Albrecht Hügli Feb 4 at 19:13
  • I have Musescore and Sibelius, but it is a lot of entry, hence if someone has done it before ... indeed it is good exercise using the examples to train my inner ear, but like many of us, my reading fluency is not as good as I would like !! BTW I tried OCR'ing as well with Photoscore, but getting it into Sibelius and correcting it is quite a job - I am hoping someone will have done this already and might be willing to share the files !! – user57363 Feb 5 at 12:11
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I didn't find anything at Youtube.

I think you can approach this two other ways.

Roughly speaking the excerpts Schoenberg provides are of two types: (1) grand staff reductions of large works by composers, and (2) generic examples Schoenberg created.

I think it's fair to say the reductions are meant to be read more than played. Even in reduction many of them simply won't fit two hands on a piano.

Inputting those reductions into MuseScore by mouse or keystroke will be slow and tedious. You could try connect a midi keyboard and play (input) the parts in real time at a slow tempo. I'm don't know exactly how to do that kind of input with MuseScore. I've done it into a sequencer with PreSonus Studio One. Basically the software becomes a multitrack recorder. If you play it in at a slow tempo, you can speed it up later. Playing separate parts in is not too hard.

The generic samples of Schoenberg's creation all look like they are meant to be played at the piano. There are two main charts I saw when scanning my copy of the book. I think the first was in the section how to create short themes and the other was about transforming themes. There the ones that don't have composer or opus number references.

In my copy of the book they are too small to read easily. But you could photocopy and enlarge them and then play them at the piano.

...my reading fluency is not as good as I would like...

My personal experience is that using the computer to work around problems with keyboard skills or score reading skills held me back on nearly every aspect of musical development.

If you are taking the same approach I tried, you might want to reconsider and work at developing your keyboard skills while studying composition.

  • @ michael: "My personal experience is that using the computer to work around problems with keyboard skills or score reading skills held me back on nearly every aspect of musical development." I have to admit: me too! I was really a virtuos in solfège when I was writing music by my own hands. Since I notate with computer programs this ability is getting lost. Sometimes I have even troubles to imagine some simple triads! – Albrecht Hügli Feb 5 at 16:50
  • It's hard to put into words concisely, but the classical style is vitally connected to performance art. It isn't an intellectual thought experiment. Two skills neglected by not playing an instrument: ear training and rhythmic sensitivity. One might think those skills could be developed only by listening, but I think you need to physically perform music to develop them. At least for the skills needed in classical style. – Michael Curtis Feb 5 at 17:12
  • absolutely! But aside of writing (composing) I still try to interiorize some simple pieces (as i.e. the Bach inventions) and I sadly have to notice that I'm not only stumbling in technical regard - also in auditiv habits. – Albrecht Hügli Feb 5 at 17:38
  • Very interesting, Michael, I think trying a keyboard would be a good idea. I will try. Comments v useful. I am not sure whether I need to start a new question, but I would be very interested in your view on how to develop both keyboard and score reading skills. @Albrecht thanks too for your comments. What I have found sofar, for the generic exercises, is that there is a definite benefit in inputting or writing the generic exercises. But I am still interested in the files for the reductions if anyone knows of their existence - it will take a while to get my keyboard skills together !!! – user57363 Feb 6 at 0:40

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