Fixed-Do Solfege in A Major scale with accidentals

Question

I am learning solfege by myself and I have a question about reading of notes with accidentals. As far as I studied, There are 2 different ways in solfege, fixed-do and movable-do. There are also variations such as chromatic and non-chromatic. The image below is A major scale with accidentals.

In movable-do/non-chromatic, it should be:

| do do re re | mi fa fa sol | sol la la ti | do do ti | ti la la sol | sol fa mi mi | re re do |

In movable-do/chromatic, it should be like:

| do di re ri | mi fa fi sol | si la li ti | do do ti | te la le sol | se fa mi me | re ra do |

But I am very confused with Fixed-do. I don't know how to read notes with accidentals. I am not sure but in fixed-do/chromatic should be like:

| la li ti do(?) | di re ri mi | fa(?) fi sol(?) si | la la si | sol fi fa mi | me re di do | ti te la |

Is that correct? Fixed-do/non-chromatic is more complicated. I have no idea whether I should just ignore accidentals or indicate actual note. Ignoring accidentals is very easy but E sharp will be "mi", etc. and I feel it's very weird.

| la la ti ti | do re re mi | mi fa fa sol | la la sol | sol fa fa mi | mi re do do | ti ti la |

Is that correct? Does anyone know the standard way of fixed-do solfege in the scale with key signature and accidentals? Thank you for your attention.

Answer 1

Fixed do, as used in France, therefore I'll use the French version, would use diese for sharp, and bemol for flat. So F♯ is called fa-diese, and B♭ is called si-bemol. I don't thnk it's productive to call, as in your first example, both A and A♯ (in movable, key A) as do, because it somewhat defeats the objective.

Answer 2

the names are like Tim says correctly "do-dièse" (C#) and "mi bémol" (Eb) etc. These expressions are used to name the key! Examples: Bach: Messe an Si- mineur

or:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suites_fran%C3%A7aises

Bach:

1.1 Suite française no 1 en ré mineur, BWV 812 1.2 Suite française no 2 en ut mineur, BWV 813 1.3 Suite française no 3 en si mineur, BWV 814 1.4 Suite française no 4 en mi bémol majeur, BWV 815 1.5 Suite française no 5 en sol majeur, BWV 816 1.6 Suite française no 6 en mi majeur, BWV 817

Rachmaninov, Prelude en do dièse mineur (-> C# minor)

But actually the French just sing the non-altered name - also DO for C# and MI for Eb etc. and the rest (sharps and flats they think or mind as it is written in the sheet notes:

the list you are asking for is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge

"In the fixed do system, shown above, accidentals do not affect the syllables used. For example, C, C♯, and C♭ (as well as Cdouble sharp and Cdouble flat, not shown above) are all sung with the syllable "do".

Answer 3

Thank you everyone for responding to my question. I think I understood about fixed-do solfege thanks to your comments and the information from websites Jody Nagel's page and reddit issue.

From my understanding, traditionally, fixed-do solfege is non-chromatic. So, Fixed-Do / Non-chromatic syllables for the music above is:

It seems weird for me because E# is sung as "mi", etc., but it's the rule here.

There are also newly devised system to differentiate chromatic notes. By using Shearer's system, fixed-do/chromatic syllables for the music above is:

Now, everything is clear. Thank you!