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I am struggling with the concept of Rhythm or Laya in Bansuri

Right now, understand that Laya is the speed at which notes are played one after another.

But how do I read Bansuri notes such that I understand the Laya. There are many resources on Google that discuss Laya, but I just cannot seem to comprehend it.

And one Bansuri video tutorial (at end of this post) shows the instructor playing 4-4 Tabla app in background, but I am unsure of how that helps with Laya.

Why does he need 4-4 Tabla?

So far, I am reading Bansuri notes for tunes I am very familiar with.

For instance, Om Jai Jagdish Hare first line is

Om Jai Jagdish Hare

I instinctively play it as

S S SSS SNR

Any advice for this newcomer?

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    He doesn't "need" 4-4 time. Here is the same in 3-3 (western terminology would be 3/4) And here is 7 (rupak) and 5 (jhaptal) youtu.be/eG1EoDl1xTI – Rusi Jun 27 at 3:18
  • @Rusi Ah ..... I guess I am yet to see ahead since I was stuck on Lesson 6 :-) – Marium Jun 27 at 13:57
  • @Rusi I guess you could turn that comment into an answer. :) – Brahadeesh Jul 8 at 12:19
  • @brahadeesh O its not a big deal. Let's hope OP has moved on from here... – Rusi Jul 8 at 12:26
  • @Rusi It's just that it will help remove this question from the unanswered list. :) – Brahadeesh Jul 8 at 12:28
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@brahadeesh suggested making comment into answer. So here it is


He doesn't “need” 4-4 time. He's just happened to match the melody (scale or sargam) to 4-4 time (taal) . Here he does it in 3-3 and here in rupak (7) and jhaptal (5-5)

Note

Western and Indian timing notations are different – the denominator is always a power of 2 in western

  • 3-3 : dadra : 3/4
  • 4-4 : keherwa (bhajani) : 8/4
  • 4-4-4-4 : teentaal : 16/4 or 16/8
  • 5-5 : jhaptal : 10/4 or 10/8
  • 7 : rupak : 7/8

Friendly suggestion

Don't try to think of the taal; instead just play along with the YouTube. For that tuning may be necessary... If I were to do it I'd use

  • YouTube downloader
  • ffmpeg to convert video to audio
  • audacity to retune.

If you need more guidance ask another question!!

  • Thank you so much @Rusi. Trying to learn this slowly and surely! – Marium Jul 8 at 18:39

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