# Does guitar fret spacing solely depend on the length of the string?

On a typical guitar, the fret board has certain spacing between each fret.

Does the spacing of frets on a guitar solely depend on the length of the string? Meaning if I have multiple guitars of different shapes and materials, but all of the guitars have the same length of string, will their fret spacing be identical?

Do any other factors play into this spacing?

• Yes..............
– Tim
Dec 30, 2019 at 20:32

The spacing of the frets depends solely on the scale length of the guitar - which is easiest to understand if you think of it as being the distance between the nut and the saddle. The nut is the slotted piece that is located at the base of the headstock and establishes the string spacing at that end of the guitar neck. The saddle is located next to the bridge on the body of the guitar, and is what the strings pass over after being secured at the bridge by the ball ends of the strings (in the case of steel string guitar - nylon strings are usually tied to the bridge before passing over the saddle). The distance between the nut and saddle equals the length of the portion of the guitar string that vibrates to make sound. It does not matter how long the guitar string is in total, the only part that matters is the part between the nut and saddle.

In the picture you included in your question, the scale length of the guitar pictured is indicated by the red line labeled # 1.

Your picture illustrates the fact that the fret spacing gets shorter as you get closer to the bridge. If you were to put a capo on a guitar and then retune the guitar to standard tuning with the capo in place, you would in effect be shortening the scale. The fret the capo is behind becomes the new "nut" in effect. The new "first fret" after the capo will have a shorter space between the new "nut" and the new "first fret" than exist between the nut and the first fret on the guitar without the capo.

Different guitars even by the same maker will often have different scale lengths from model to model and a corresponding adjustment must be made to the spacing between frets.

If the spacing is not precise between frets, the guitar will not play in tune on all frets. Some guitars have adjustable saddles which permit fine adjustments to the intonation to compensate for varying tuning characteristics of the particular guitar strings used - which can vary based on the type metal alloy the strings are made of and the diameter of the string.

Most saddles on acoustic guitars are "compensated" meaning they create a slightly different distance between point of contact at the saddle and the nut to compensate for the tuning differences between the larger diameter strings and smaller diameter strings. But the frets are always perpendicular to the fretboard and the spacing between frets is always based on the overall scale.

Technically a guitars scale is the distance between the nut and the center of the 12th fret doubled. The 12th fret is (for practical purposes) the midpoint between the nut and saddle. Therefore, the distance between the nut and 12th fret would mandate the location of the saddle and the fret spacing would be calculated based on the scale length using Pythagoras Ratios (a mathematical calculation). The Pythagoras ratios determine how the length of a guitar string (as altered by each fret) corresponds to the relative difference in pitch of the same string at each different length. For example, we know that halving the length of a guitar string (12th fret) will cause it to vibrate at a frequency which we will hear as the same note exactly one octave higher. The other divisions are more complicated than dividing by two - but each ratio will have a specific effect on the relative vibration frequency (and thus pitch) of the strings.

For a more detailed explanation of how fret spacing is calculated you may click this link Math for Guitar Fret Spacing

• Just a comment: yes, a capo will change the harmonic series for that string so far as the position of open-fingered notes goes, but otherwise, for closed-fingerings (fully press string to fret) you get the same notes as un-capoed. Dec 30, 2019 at 22:29
• 3/4 scale guitars aren't actually 3/4! It's a misnomer! They're actually closer to 7/8! Nut around fret two-and-three-quarters!
– Tim
Dec 31, 2019 at 8:01
• @CarlWitthoft You are correct about the actual fretted note played with or without a capo assuming the tuning remains standard. Some folks will use a capo to shorten the scale and then re-tune to standard tuning with capo in place which would render the scale shortening effect I was alluding to. I edited my answer to make that clear. Thanks for the observation. Jan 2, 2020 at 21:19
• @Tim I believe you are correct. I have a so called "3/4 scale" guitar and it is actually more like a 7/8. Not sure why they call it 3/4. I edited my answer to remove the questionable assertion. Thanks for pointing it out. Input in comments can help improve the content of the site and I appreciate you and Carl and others when helpful observations are made. Jan 2, 2020 at 21:29
• @CarlWitthoft Here is proof that some folks shorten the scale by installing capo and re-tuning the guitar. (music.stackexchange.com/q/53144/16897) Jan 2, 2020 at 21:35

Primarily, but not solely.

The fret spacing, and the progression of frets along the fretboard as you move toward the bridge, are based on the equal-tempered scale, and are primarily based on the total length of the string from nut to bridge.

However, two other variables affect how close a fit that fret progression is to the "ideal". Those are tuning and action. Simply put, the higher the open string is tuned, or the further the strings are intended to be off of the neck, the higher the tension a fretted string will have, and that will "pull" fretted notes sharp. If the instrument is designed for a higher (or lower) action, or for a higher (or lower) tuning, the fret spacing may need adjustment in order to ensure that the transverse pressure placed on the string as it's fretted, adding to its tension, combines with its shorter fretted length to keep the note in tune at each fret.

In reality, these concerns are relatively minor for a factory-built instrument, unless your tastes in your guitar's action are really off. However, when building an instrument yourself, you cannot just lay out a totally mathematically-derived progression of frets along the fretboard and expect the thing to stay perfectly in tune. Even with the bridge intonation properly adjusted to bring the octave in tune, other frets are going to be sharper if you lay out the fretboard this way. Most commercially-available layout guides leave the string's speaking length slightly longer than the mathematically-ideal length at each fret to compensate for the increased tension of the fretted string.

• Technically correct. Practically - not so easy for the average guitarist to comprehend or care about. I know that the saddle on my acoustic guitars are less tall on the higher pitched treble strings to keep them closer to the fretboard which may also explain why the saddle is slanted - thereby creating a different scale length for the treble strings which are generally set up closer to the fretboard. Jan 3, 2020 at 20:47

If you are talking about equal temperament 12 tone western tuning then yes. The length from bridge to nut sets the fret locations and hence the spacing.

Does the spacing of frets on a guitar solely depend on the length of the string? Meaning if I have multiple guitars of different shapes and materials, but all of the guitars have the same length of string, will their fret spacing be identical?

Yes.* ‡ Two guitars with the same scale length will have the same fret position.

• You may find that, on a perfectly-intonated, perfectly-tuned guitar, that the G on the third fret of the E string will be flat. The C on the A string will be flat but less so. My recollection is that the culprit here is the radius of the string, but I could remember incorrectly. There are alternate nut systems, namely Earvana and Buzz Feiten, that change where the nut sits to allow better tuning on the first five frets. This will change where the nut sits in relation to the first fret. They're systems; it's not just the nut, but that's a big part of it.

‡ String radius is also a contributing factor in bridge position. Look at the bridge of a steel-string guitar and you will see the saddle for the lower strings will be further back than the higher strings. Doesn't change the scale length or the fret spacing, but the lower strings will be longer, saddle-to-nut, than the higher strings.

• And a low string for a .008-.038 set will come in shorter than for a .012-.058 set Jul 13, 2021 at 14:31