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Is it hard for a baritone to sing F4? Many people say that baritones cannot sing Silent Night in C. Is F4 really too high for a baritone? Do you find this too high? This is what the organists have been telling me. Is this really true?

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Depends on the baritone. Professional solo baritones frequently are called on to sing F4 or even a bit higher.

In choral parts, it's pretty rare to see F4 for baritone, though. In choral situations, the highest common notes for baritone are likely to be around D4 or Eb4, occasionally E4.

Really, it depends on the singer. Professional singers who call themselves "baritones" often find it much easier to hit high notes compared to amateurs who call themselves "baritones." A lot of introductory voice lessons for men often goes into proper technique to sing high notes without straining.

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  • Most baritones seem to have issues with notes above D4. It seems that baritones Rather sing down to F#2 than above D4. Is it unnatural for baritones to sing above D4? I am a tenor who finds that it is natural to sing F4.
    – user20754
    Dec 31, 2019 at 15:43
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    @Hank: It's not "unnatural" for baritones to sing about D4. It's just that many of them don't sing high notes easily or well without training. The reality is that many men who identify as "baritones" or even as "basses" could probably sing tenor parts if they had training. (I'm not talking about professional opera tenor roles, which would be too high -- I mean standard choral tenor parts.)
    – Athanasius
    Jan 1, 2020 at 14:56
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For operatic singers, typical highest notes in operas are:

Bass: F#4

Baritone: A4, or even G#4 for Helden baritones

Tenor: C5

So, for a (professional operatic) baritone, F4 would not be a very high note, and no problem to sing it for a trained singer, although it is not in the lower range either. Operatic baritones must be able to sing at least the A4 when vocalizing, and then it is easier for them to reach the lower notes too.

Back to your question, I would agree with those organists on the fact that it would sound better if the baritone sung Silent Night a little lower so the high note is lower than F4. The characteristic of that song is not very dramatic so a lower range would suit it better. You should try different keys of the song and hear and feel what fits your voice the best. Maybe drop the key a few steps lower so that the highest note is C4, C#4 or D4 instead of F4?

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  • do you include mixed voice or head voice in your calculations? or is thw conversation all about chest voice??
    – adir abargil
    Feb 19, 2021 at 8:22
  • If I have understood correctly, for basses/altos, chest voice is everything under A3, and for baritones/mezzos, chest voice is everything under C4 (bass-baritones: B3) and for tenors/sopranos, chest voice is everything under E4 (sometimes even F4/F#4). Everything over those notes for a specific voice type is mixed voice / head voice.
    – jeppoo1
    Feb 19, 2021 at 13:09
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F4 is about the top of the baritone range, but it shouldn't be too high for any trained singer.

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  • F4 is about the top for a trained professional bass. A trained professional baritone should be completely f comfortable singing F4.
    – phoog
    Jan 3, 2020 at 20:44
  • @phoog - can't disagree. I sang for years in an accapella quartet, and our bass had no trouble with F4.
    – Scott Wallace
    Jan 4, 2020 at 13:43

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