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I've lots of drumloops recorded, that are (given the BPM at which they were recorded) long 4 beats per bar (i.e. 4/4), for 2 bars.

Here's opened in my DAW:

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Is it correct to state that they are in fact 8/4 drumloops? The accent is every 8 quarters.

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  • Which bit do you think represents the accent every 8 quarters?
    – Tim
    Apr 16, 2020 at 8:52

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No, carry on stating that you have two bars of 4/4

If you tell someone you have one 8/4 bar, they'll be puzzled and you'll have to explain yourself anyway.

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  • So which tempo is that?
    – markzzz
    Apr 15, 2020 at 11:53
  • I know I don't have "two bars of 4/4", else the "accent" will repeat after 1 bar. But in fact, it repeats after 8 beats...
    – markzzz
    Apr 15, 2020 at 11:54
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The way it sounds will be 8/4, so it's better written that way. The accent on the first beat of each bar makes it so. If it was 4/4, you'd need to signify that one bar is accented, and the next isn't.

Anyone reading 8/4 might think it a little odd, but the time sig. needs to reflect what actually happens. All music should be written in the easiest way to read and make sense.

Fact - two bars of 4/4 are two bars of 4/4. If that 'compartment' of music translates to one bar, it can be called 8/4. It's not an improper fraction. Some music has way more than 8 crotchets per bar.

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    One of these days, a dver is going to explain! Don't mind dv, but on its own, it's meaningless to all except the dver. Come on, get realistic.
    – Tim
    Apr 15, 2020 at 12:47
  • not sure if you are ironic or are you talking seriously?
    – markzzz
    Apr 15, 2020 at 13:26
  • @markzzz - about what in particular? Answer or comment? No irony here. All serious.
    – Tim
    Apr 15, 2020 at 13:31
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    @markzzz - a dver is a shortened version for one who downvotes (dv). We can more often than not understand an upvote, looking at the quality of what's been upvoted. Sadly, not so with a dv.
    – Tim
    Apr 15, 2020 at 13:36
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    @markzzz - when you want to address a particular person with a comment, use '@xxxx'. I guess the comment wasn't to me.
    – Tim
    Apr 16, 2020 at 14:22
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In this case the wave form of bar 2 looks identical to the wave form of bar 1. The wave form is 2 bars long in 4/4 time and the second bar is the same as the first. The 4 quarter note subdivisions can be seen below the wave form.

This pattern looks like bass drum on 1 and 3& and snare drum on 2 and 4 with high hat (or cymbal) varying between 8th and 16th notes.

Phrases can be more than one bar long with no repetitions and accents can occur anywhere in a phrase. Neither of those determine the time signature.

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  • They are not identical, they are similar. You hear the "repeat" after 8 beats...
    – markzzz
    Apr 16, 2020 at 11:50
  • @markzzz the rhythmic pattern is identical. If a drummer plays a 1 bar pattern there will be subtle differences from bar to bar. I stand by my answer, 4/4. You seem to resist the idea that this is 4/4. Your question even states “2 bars 4/4 drum loop”. Is there a reason you want this to be 8/4? Would you count this song off as 12345678? Apr 16, 2020 at 17:24
  • @Belzaguy Yes I do. For almost every drumloops I think: 12345678. Song apart, because It can fit within a 4/4 Song...
    – markzzz
    Apr 19, 2020 at 7:36

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