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I have decided to have my form of an oratorio as 4 voices (soprano, alto, tenor, and bass) and 4 stringed instruments (violin, viola, cello, bass). This form is much like the form of Handel's Messiah.

How would I go about writing this oratorio? Which instrument should I start with first? Do I write a melody and then decide on a bass line and use the chords for the other voices? Do I write the voices first (I know how to write a chorale) and then write the orchestral part?

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

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    I think the first step is to select a libretto. Have you done that yet? As an aside, I note that there are no chorales in Handel's Messiah, nor as far as I'm aware in any of his oratorios. The use of a chorale as a movement of a larger choral/orchestral work is associated with the German church cantata and related forms. – phoog May 23 at 2:12
  • Yes, I know there are no chorales. I have the music for the Messiah and after looking through it and listening to it, it seemed that knowing how to write a chorale would be important for writing an Oratorio. So I should write a libretto first? – Haversine May 23 at 3:13
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    In classical music, people typically did not write librettos for their own music. – Dekkadeci May 23 at 13:22
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    @Dekkadeci is correct. Of course, there's also no reason you shouldn't write it yourself if you are so inclined. The usual procedure in classical music is that the composer "sets" a text to music, which means that the text exists before the composer starts. However, when a work is being developed for the stage, both libretto and music might evolve as the production is being developed. I don't know when that started happening in the opera world, but I find it hard to imagine, for example, that the Magic Flute libretto remained unchanged from the time Mozart first laid eyes on it. – phoog May 23 at 15:48
  • oh so a libretto is just the text to a music? – Haversine May 23 at 16:03
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You first have to find the lyrics that you want to set in music, e.g. Psalm verses from the Bible. Then you turn them in your mind and the melodies will be born. You'll have to decide which parts you want use as a choral and which you will set as recitatives and arias.

The next step is that you will hear some instruments when you sing the melodies, counterpoints and choirs will be separated from Arias.

An Oratorium is will not be planned like a sailing turn. It is rather a kind of pregnancy. If you have the idea of the message (e.g. "THE SECOND COMING OF THE LORD - INCARNATED IN CORONA") you will search for Bible verses like these:

This day will come like "a thief in the night" (1 Thessalonians 5: 2).

(now you have to decide will this be performed by a Choir (Choral) or a Soloist (recitative.)

Signs of the End:

Recitativ: 1 Jesus left the temple. He was walking away when his disciples came up to him. They wanted to call his attention to the temple buildings.

Jesus (Solo):

2 “Do you see all these things?”  

“Do you see all these things?” Jesus asked. “What I'm about to tell you is true. Not one stone here will be left on top of another. Every stone will be thrown down.”

In this kind you will plan the whole chapter Matth. 24

 Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives. There the disciples came to him in private. “Tell us,” they said. “When will this happen? And what will be the sign of your coming? What will be the sign of the end?” 4 Jesus answered, “Keep watch! Be careful that no one fools you. 5 Many will come in my name. They will claim, ‘I am the Christ!’ They will fool many people. 6 “You will hear about wars. You will also hear people talking about future wars. Don't be alarmed. Those things must happen. But the end still isn't here. 7 Nation will fight against nation. Kingdom will fight against kingdom. People will go hungry. There will be earthquakes in many places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. 9 “Then people will hand you over to be treated badly and killed. All nations will hate you because of me. 10 At that time, many will turn away from their faith. They will hate each other. They will hand each other over to their enemies. 11 Many false prophets will appear. They will fool many people. 12 Because evil will grow, most people's love will grow cold. 13 But the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 This good news of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world. It will be a witness to all nations. Then the end will come. 15 “The prophet Daniel spoke about ‘the hated thing that destroys.’ Someday you will see it standing in the holy place. The reader should understand this. 16 Then those who are in Judea should escape to the mountains. 17 No one on the roof should go down into his house to take anything out. 18 No one in the field should go back to get his coat. 19 How awful it will be in those days for pregnant women! How awful for nursing mothers! 20 Pray that you will not have to escape in winter or on the Sabbath day. 21 There will be terrible suffering in those days. It will be worse than any other from the beginning of the world until now. And there will never be anything like it again. 22 If the time had not been cut short, no one would live. But because of God's chosen people, it will be shortened. 23 “At that time someone may say to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ!’ Or, ‘There he is!’ Do not believe it. 24 False Christs and false prophets will appear. They will do great signs and miracles. They will try to fool God's chosen people if possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘He is far out in the desert,’ do not go out there. Or if anyone says, ‘He is deep inside the house,’ do not believe it.

27 Lightning that comes from the east can be seen in the west. It will be the same when the Son of Man comes.

28 The vultures will gather wherever there is a dead body. 29 “Right after the terrible suffering of those days, “

‘The sun will be darkened. The moon will not shine. The stars will fall from the sky. The heavenly bodies will be shaken.

30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. All the nations on earth will be sad. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky. He will come with power and great glory. 31 He will send his angels with a loud trumpet call. They will gather his chosen people from all four directions. They will bring them from one end of the heavens to the other. 32 “Learn a lesson from the fig tree. As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 In the same way, when you see all those things happening, you know that the end is near. It is right at the door. 34 What I'm about to tell you is true. The people living at that time will certainly not pass away until all those things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away. But my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Are Not Known

36 “No one knows about that day or hour. Not even the angels in heaven know. The Son does not know. Only the Father knows.

37 “Remember how it was in the days of Noah. It will be the same when the Son of Man comes.

38 “In the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking. They were getting married. They were giving their daughters to be married. They did all those things right up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39 They knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be when the Son of Man comes.

40 “Two men will be in the field. One will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill. One will be taken and the other left.

42 “So keep watch. You do not know on what day your Lord will come.

43 You must understand something. Suppose the owner of the house knew what time of night the robber was coming. Then he would have kept watch. He would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready.

The Son of Man will come at an hour when you don't expect him.

45 “Suppose a master puts one of his servants in charge of the other servants in his house. The servant's job is to give them their food at the right time. The master wants a faithful and wise servant for this. 46 It will be good for the servant if the master finds him doing his job when the master returns. 47 What I'm about to tell you is true. The master will put that servant in charge of everything he owns. 48 “But suppose that servant is evil. Suppose he says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time.’ 49 Suppose he begins to beat the other servants. And suppose he eats and drinks with those who drink too much. 50 The master of that servant will come back on a day the servant doesn't expect him. He will return at an hour the servant does not know. 51 Then the master will cut him to pieces. He will send him to the place where pretenders go. There people will sob and grind their teeth.

If you have turned the words in your head you will hear when the trombones have to play and which passage will be accompanied by harps or violins.

The music will come to you like the virgin came to the babe.

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  • Thank you very much! those verses are great places that I will likely choose for my libretto. Can you please elaborate the musical part of a composing an oratorio? – Haversine May 24 at 6:53
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    @Haversine perhaps a new question is in order. – phoog May 24 at 16:54
  • @phoog why? That was my original question – Haversine May 25 at 4:57
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    @Haversine fair enough. But note that the specific questions you ask (like "do I start with a melody") are more appropriate to learning how to write a single movement of an oratorio. It seems like you may be trying to run before you've learned to walk. – phoog May 25 at 5:24
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    @Haversine I mean that it sounds like you may be getting ahead of yourself. It's like someone who's asking about writing a novel and also about how to organize paragraphs. It's a completely different level of abstraction. If you aren't comfortable writing paragraphs, you should work on that by writing essays or short stories before attempting a novel. Similarly, if you're asking about whether to start with melody or chords, you should be working on shorter choral pieces, songs, or chamber music before trying to write a whole oratorio. – phoog May 25 at 7:02
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First and foremost: don’t write an Oratorio, Cantata, Symphony or major orchestrated forms as your first work. Or second, or even tenth. A sure proficiency of counterpoint at least you will need for your project. I’m stating this because it’s easier to complete a piece when you have developed your craft enough. I did this mistake when first learning composition and I still have many incomplete pieces from these days, almost 15 years ago. They remind myself of why and how I failed.

Enough said, you need to setup up a workflow, like a schedule plan.

  1. Get the text, cut and divide the verses/lines for each movement. The text should give you a basic sense of form - or how to divide the sections within a movement.

  2. Basic wordpainting. Create melodies fitting the lyrics.

  3. Time for experiences: harmonize these melodies in 4 voices (basic stuff for classic music), write countermelodies, try different harmonies and techniques. Now you have something to expand into phrases.

  4. Set your composed experiences to the form planned and develop your sections varying the materials. Too less new material is boring, too much is messy and nonsense. (Usually)

  5. Orchestrate. Test different settings and articulations until you’re satisfied (or close to this).

  6. Edit your final score in a sheet music software (Finale, Sibelius, MuseScore, Dorico...)

  7. ...?! Profit! Or not. But now you begin the next cycle: finding musicians to play your music. And start new compositions.

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How would I go about writing this oratorio?

First, pick a text. Then split the text up into movements. Decide which movements will be sung by which voices, whether as solo songs, duets or other ensembles of soloists, or by the full chorus. (Some of this may already have been done by the librettist if the text is in the form of a play where specific lines are assigned to specific characters.)

Decide on the feeling of each movement. Is it happy or sad? Fast or slow? And so on. Now is a good time to think about large-scale form.

Then you can start writing individual movements. If you don't have much songwriting experience, you might want to get some first by writing songs that stand by themselves without having to worry about larger forms.

Which instrument should I start with first?

It needn't be the same for each movement.

Do I write a melody and then decide on a bass line and use the chords for the other voices?

That's one way to do it.

Do I write the voices first (I know how to write a chorale) and then write the orchestral part?

That's one way to do it.

But sometimes your first idea for a given bit of text might be a violin figure, a bass line, a particular chord progression, or some countermelody for the tenors. Whatever idea you have, start with that and develop it.

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