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Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827), composer whose work spanned the boundary between the Classical and Romantic eras.

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Anotations in Beethoven original score of the 9th symphony

I once heard that in the original handwritten score of the first movement of Beethoven's 9th symphony there are references to the creation myth as annotations. However, these were not replicated in ...
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Stopped notes in Beethoven's 2d

In David Zinman's complete Beethoven symphonies with the Tonhalle orchestra, he uses the Barenreiter edition, modern instrument, and fast tempos. In his performance the first movement of the 2d ...
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Chromatic 7th chords going upwards in Beethoven

This is about how the harmony is working in Rondo a Capriccio by Beethoven. Here is the passage I am talking about: So starting at measure 291, there is a passage where 7th chords go up chromatically,...
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Piano: quaver triplets in RH v dotted quaver and semiquaver in LH

Towards the end of the first movement of Beethoven's Piano Sonata Op 27 No 2 (Moonlight) the right hand is playing triplet quavers while the left has a dotted quaver and semiquaver. If we are ...
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Did Beethoven write any modes other than the Ionian / Aeolian / Lydian modes?

The Ionian and the Aeolian modes are considered major and natural minor keys, and all composers used these modes all the time, including Beethoven, who also wrote Lydian mode in one of his string ...
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To compose music, do you have to be able to hear?

I am asking this question out of sheer curiosity. Ludwig van Beethoven was deaf but still made some amazing songs. Just like Beethoven, do your ears have to work normally (Like not deaf), to be able ...
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How accurate is the von Bulow edition of the Beethoven piano sonatas?

I'm wondering whether or not the Hans von Bulow edition is scholarly and accurate or not.I'm aware that Liszt favored it as his students recollect that he only used that edition when teaching the ...
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Could this Scherzo by Beethoven be considered to be a fugue?

I have listened to the scherzo of Beethoven's Piano Sonata op. 2 no. 3 and it is very fugal in nature. It even has a fugal exposition(though it is dominant, dominant, dominant, dominant of dominant, ...
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How to acheive this wide stretch legato?

I am learning Piano Sonata no. 1 in F minor by Beethoven. It looks way easier than the Pathetique Sonata and in a sense it is. But the ending of the exposition for my right hand is quite a stretch. ...
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Stuck orchestrating the melody of a Beethoven sonata

I have been orchestrating the Pathetique Sonata for months. I looked on IMSLP and saw no orchestral transcription. And I figured, if I am going to orchestrate a piano sonata, this would be the sonata ...
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How is Beethoven able to make so many sudden shifts in key?

I know of 2 very common modulations that classical music composers of all ages have done. Those 2 are relative modulation and parallel modulation respectively. I myself have done those and I see both ...
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How to overcome emotional tension with this Beethoven rondo

I never thought this would happen but it just did. The Beethoven rondo I am referring to is the one in G major, widely known as "Rage over a Lost Penny". There is a 20 measure section starting at ...
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Advice on arranging piano music for wind quartet?

I am arranging the Moonlight Sonata for woodwind quartet. The adagio and the minuet are simple enough to transcribe note for note. But the presto, that is hard. I mean there are super fast arpeggios ...
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Trouble reading Beethoven's Op 14. No. 1 [closed]

I'm having trouble reading measures 22-25 on this piece. I can't tell when I'm going up a half note or a whole note during these measures. For example, in measure 22 (the first bar in the picture), ...
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How many notes in a trill?

I’m playing a sonata by Beethoven (op. 78. No. 24 in F# major) and there are two of these trills (see the picture I’ve attached) in the left hand. My question is, how many notes should be in this ...
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Did Beethoven really usher in the Romantic Period?

Most people argue that because Beethoven kept pushing the boundaries further and further on sonata form and dissonance that he started the Romantic Revolution. On the other hand, I have heard a few ...
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Unplayable turn in Beethoven sonata

Beethoven's piano sonata Op. 2 No. 3, first movement, bars 179-180 (Henle edition). The turn decorating each eighth note can be played literally. Except for the one on bar 179's A sharp, because ...
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Why are some Beethoven works given names like WoO 40 or Hess 238?

Why is it called WoO 40 or Hess 238? These are names of Beethoven's symphonies. They have peculiar names.
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1 to Flat-6 to 1 chord progression - Is this a Beethoven thing?

I was fooling around with a song the other day that opened with a C to Ab to C progression, and someone said that it was taken from some composition by Beethoven. Does anyone know if this is true, and ...
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The “tunelessness” of birdsong in a “Peanuts” comic strip?

Charles Schulz was a very careful transcriber of music into Peanuts. Many passages are identifiable (lots of Beethoven, no surprise). However, Schulz could not read music himself -- thus copying from ...
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What makes a piece sound like Beethoven?

I can't seem to find non-harmonic analyses of Beethoven's sonatas. And I'm not a classical music analyzer. That makes it hard to write a sonata in the style of Beethoven when I don't know what ...
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Rage Over A Lost Penny: Getting better at left hand section

I am currently learning Beethoven's "Rage Over A Lost Penny", and I am finding it very hard to play this particular section: The right hand is pretty easy for me here, but it's the left hand that I ...
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Why does Brahms stand next to Bach and Beethoven?

I've often heard the expression, "Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms" as sort of a summary of classical music, or something. I feel that I understand why Bach and Beethoven should serve as pillars of ...
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Why is Debussy's remark brilliant (on going out and smoking, at the start of Beethoven's developments)?

From: Charles Rosen. Critical Entertainments. p. 117 Bottom - 118 Top.   In the same way, attacks on Beethoven could be profound and even persuasive, and would continue to be so after his death ...
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What's going on in measures 11 - 16 of Beethoven's Sonata Appasionata?

I'm studying the Neapolitan Chord and the textbook includes the following excerpt to analyze. Up until measure 10 I understand what's happening, but I have no clue how to interpret measure 11 and ...
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Do you always play the melody louder than the accompaniment, unless specified?

The moonlight sonata 1st movement by Beethoven, for example, has a melody on top with an accompaniment with the left AND right hand (starts at measure 5). People usually say that you play the melody ...
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How should I approach this section of Beethovens Op2 No1

I started this piece around 2 days ago for my grade 8 piano exam and I've been having a nightmare with the beginning section(red circles). I can play the rest of the piece with no problem but the ...
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Why did Beethoven include “in the Lydian Mode” in the title of String Quartet, Op.132 - 3?

Beethoven himself gave a title to String Quartet No.15 in A minor, Op.132 - 3: A Convalescent's Holy Song of Thanksgiving to the Divinity, in the Lydian Mode From the language and context, and ...
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Which hands to use for Für Elise by Beethoven?

In Für Elise by Beethoven, in many variations found on the net, starting from bar 13, and as I have seen in many videos playing this part, both hands are used consecutively while most to all of them ...
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Moonlight sonata, note lengths inside triplets

The first triplet is very uneven. Its total length is 1/4. Triplet 1: A (1/8), D#(1/4), F#(1/4 divided by 3 = 1/12) For how long should I hold A and D#? Should I hold D# with 1st finger until C# ...
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Moonlight sonata fingering

I noticed there is a similar post here: strange fingering in moonlight sonata but that does not answer my question. I can't even play the first triplet. I use finger 5 to play and hold the ...
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Preparatory studies for Moonlight 3rd movement

I can successfully play the first movement and would otherwise consider myself to be at Canada's Royal Conservatory of Music level 8 to 9 (can play Chopin's Prelude No. 6, Op. 28 with my own ...
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Beethoven Kreutzer string quintet

I recently bought a boxed set of Beethoven CDs. I had most of the works already but it was still a cost effective way to fill some gaps. Beethoven - Complete Masterpieces at Amazon One surprising ...
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Beethoven sonata pathetique, playing with small hands

Despite much practice, I simply can't play right hsnd chords in bar 5 accurately. I would really appreciate any work arounds eg. is it acceptable to leave out highest f after first playing? Any help ...
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Modulating from A-flat major to C major (Beethoven)

The second movement (Andante con moto) of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony begins serenely in A-flat major; then, almost without warning, it switches to a triumphant theme in C major. The modulation is ...
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Beethovens pathetique 2nd movement

Need help with the notation in Beethovens Pathetique 2nd movement. Bars 20 and 21.How are these played? What notes are played forthe ornamentation. Bar 20: Bar 21:
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Beethoven piano concerto 3 mvt 3

How should I consider this part ? Is there something different that we should hear, or that should appear when I play apart from the regular scale ? Why aren't the notes organized regularly 4-4-4 or ...
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Any information on this tease of a fugue in Beethoven's Hammerklavier? [closed]

There's a passage approximately two minutes before the main fugue theme of the fourth mvt. in Beethoven's Hammerklavier op. 106; it lays out a brilliant theme for a fugue which is thereafter never ...
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What are some reliable, high-quality resources for studying a piece of music? [closed]

In order to assimilate a piece of music more fully, I would first study the score, play it, hear it and observe it by myself. However, I would then desire to consult a high-quality resource that would ...
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How to play fast and very quietly on piano

So at the moment I'm learning the first movement of the Pathétique Sonata by Beethoven. The main problem I'm having is with the left-hand accompaniment which is similar throughout much of the piece, ...
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Beethoven repeated sforzando

In some Beethoven works (e.g. 8th symphony - first movement) there are some parts with repeated sforzando. Are these intended as simple sforzando or sforzando within crescendo? Is there any historical ...
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Cb and Eb in C minor

I'm working on Beethoven's Sonata no 5 I passed by this I can't figure out how the C and E are flat, as Cb is a B and E is already Flat according to the C minor scale I'm very new to music reading ...
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E flat or E natural in score of Beethoven String Quartet Op 131?

I have heard recordings of Beethoven's C sharp minor string quartet Op. 131 where, in bar 53 the third crotchet of the first violin part is played as E flat, and at least one recording where it is ...
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How does the 3rd movement of Moonlight Sonata relate to moonlight?

Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 14 is also called the Moonlight Sonata. The first movement is smooth, like the moonlight in a quiet and clear night; the second movement is vivid, just similar to the ...
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Cadential Six Four Chord

Must the V chord always immediately follow the I 6-4 in a cadential six-four or can there be maybe a passing six-four in between like in measure seven of beethoven's piano concerto no.1 op.15, I? ...
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How does the performance of “rubato” differ in the classical and romantic styles?

In the movie Amadeus, there's a scene of a chamber orchestra where the conductor uses a large pole and pounds the floor to indicate downbeats in a strict time. And in earlier music, such as Bach ...
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Is there a piece of music that “inaugurated” Beethoven's middle period, and thus the Romantic era?

Since Beethoven's early works are considered part of the Classical era, and his later works are considered part of the Romantic era, is there, by scholarly consensus, a single piece of his that ...
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How can I play Für Elise well?

I've always heard that Für Elise is an extremely difficult piece to play well, despite being relatively easy in a technical sense. An added challenge is that it's been extremely over-played (I'm just ...
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How to distinguish between piano music by Beethoven and Chopin?

What are some musical characteristics that can be analyzed to tell if a piece of music was written by Ludwig van Beethoven or Frédéric Chopin? Both are unmistakably present in the concert repertoire ...