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Chopin was a romantic composer who lived from 1810 to 1849 and wrote mainly - almost only - for the piano.

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Chopin Nocturne in C sharp minor (posth.) note mistake

In Chopin's C sharp minor Nocturne (no. 20, op. posth.) measure 15 the fourth and last notes of the left hand appear to be B in every music sheet that I can find online: However, it seems that all ...
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Rhythmic values don't add up in a variant of Chopin's Nocturne op. 9 no 2?

In the book Chopin: Pianist and Teacher: As Seen by his Pupils I found a fragment which shows 2 variants (at least that's what it looks like to me) of bar 24 of Nocturne op. 9 no 2, presented by ...
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Help required for beginner!

I am learning to play the piano and read music; I have only just started and so I apologise upfront if the question I am about to ask is a completely dumb one. I was skimming through some sheet music ...
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Chopin Waltz in b minor (Op. 69 No. 2) measures 13~14 different versions

I'm seeing two different versions of Chopin Op. 69 No. 2 Waltz in b minor, Measure 13-14. The one that is not urtext (or maybe is also urtext?) seems to be widely used. My Henle Urtext book (see cover ...
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Music Notation: "Wave" below a note

So recently I stumbled upon this symbol in one of Chopin's works, to be precise in "4 Mazurkas" (Op. 33 No. 1) in bars 14, 16 and 17. Here's a link to the edition I'm talking about, and below is a ...
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How fast would Chopin have played his own Fantasie Impromptu, Op. 66?

I came across a performance of Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu by Valentina Lisitsa and was surprised how fast she performed it, around 95 bpm (half-note beat)! Urtext tempo indication is Allegro agitato....
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Did Chopin Op. 6 have four or five pieces?

On IMSLP and Wikipedia they only list four, but I found some sources that have a fifth one as well such as here and here. What is with the discrepancy?
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Getting Chopin Etude Op 10 no 1 up to tempo

I am trying to learn Chopin Etude Op 10 no 1, and since it is the summer I am without a teacher. I've got the notes and the fingering down pat, but I am stuck on a tempo of about 130 bpm, when I ...
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Perfecting accents in Chopin's Impromptu

I'm having a little difficulty in perfecting the following accents in Chopin's Impromptu. (Here's the sheet music I'm referencing for those interested. ) If you look at the following picture, you'...
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Chord-spelling change in Chopin's Mazurka Op. 24 n.4

In the manuscript of measure 138 (marked mancando) of his Mazurka, Op. 24 n.4, Chopin crosses out the (same) chord on the third beat and respells it—I assume in preparation for the key change that ...
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Mastering double trills

After many years of playing piano I recently encountered the double trill in Chopin's Barcarolle. I'm having a hard time getting my fingers to actually play them. Although I do have what could be ...
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Is Fantaisie Impromptu actually in G# Phrygian?

I’m new to music theory and the definition of key I’ve learned seems to contradict established fact. I’ve been told that the tonic of a piece is the key where the melody comes to rest, where it feels ...
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Chopin Nocturne How to play C-flat? [duplicate]

Chopin Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2 In the 13th full bar, Right hand 5th note. My music sheet shows a Cb (equivalent to B). Should it be there? Should it be played as B natural followed by B-flat?
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Was Cortot right about Etude op. 10 no. 1?

I was reading through Cortot's edition of Chopin's op. 10 no. 1 etude "Waterfall" (link) and on bar 25 (page 10) he gives this note: referring to these bars: I was shocked to see this ...
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Rubato where there is no indication of rubato

Unless I'm crazy (not impossible, tbh) every performance of Messiaen: Prelude No. 7, Plainte calme that I have heard does not seem to follow the sheet music. There's a passage where the time signature ...
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Chopin Ballades' difficulty range

Welcome to my first post! I recently discovered Chopin's four Ballades and I am particularly drawn to the first. I am currently not at the level to play it, but I would love to play it in the future. ...
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How should I practice the piano piece Fantaisie-Impromptu?

It has always been a childhood dream of mine to play well the piano piece Fantaisie-Impromptu. Unfortunately, I was not able to learn the piece with my piano teacher while I was learning the piano. ...
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What is the harmony of this bar from Chopin's Minute waltz?

Consider following excerpt from Chopin's Minute waltz in D flat major. The last bar is the chord of D flat major (tonic). What is the chord of the penultimate bar? Why is there an A flat and A natural ...
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Beginning of Chopin nocturne no.20: slur and tie confusion

In the opening bars of this c-sharp minor nocturne, we have the famous descending scales that are played twice, first in piano then in pianissimo. Here's a snapshot (source) of the part in question: ...
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4th octave Eb in Chopin, should I trust that the flutist will get the note?

I am arranging Nocturne in Eb Op. 9 no. 2 for Flute and String Quartet and I have reached a spot where it is difficult for me to decide whether or not I should stick with the notes that Chopin wrote ...
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Did Chopin use hairpins (adjacent crescendo and decrescendo) to indicate rubato rather than dynamics?

In her answer to Liszt's B minor sonata crescendo, user @Madeleine writes: In many places in Chopin's music, he wrote hairpins ... to indicate rubato rather than a crescendo or decrescendo. The ...
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Should the last chord before the last four chords be fortissimo in Chopin Op. 10, No. 12?

I'm learning Revolutionary Etude by Chopin (Op. 10, No. 12), and I am thinking about the last chord before the last four chords (fifth to the last chord, at the beginning of m. 81). Should it be ...
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Why is there different Pedaling in different editions of Chopin's op 57?

In seeking the score for this piece, I came across 2 frequent editions: one that shows to use the pedal for half the bar, the other to use 2 bursts of pedal ...
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Chopin's Etude op. 10 No.1 - why the D sharp in bar 8?

In Chopin's Etude op. 10, No.1, bar 8, why does Chopin choose to have D sharp (D♯) in the purple square quoted below? Why not choose the more natural D there? Is there logic, a good reason, and ...
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Ballades (Chopin) Harmony Question

I don't listen to much classical; however, I recently found this beautiful work by Chopin. I am wondering if you could help me explain a particularly amazing moment in the piece. Please refer to ...
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Meaning of left parenthesis notation on chords

As an example, in the Joseffy edition of the Chopin Nocturne op.62 no.1, there are many instances where a "left parenthesis" is used in front of a chord. I have always assumed this means a ...
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As a pianist, am I a philistine for secretly hating Chopin? [closed]

I am a pianist – not a terribly good one; I got ABSRM Grade 8 as a teenager and now (~20 years later) have moved mostly onto voice but I continue to play the piano both for fun and occasionally for ...
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Chopin Prelude Op. 28 No. 1: A mysterious mutated note in the 12th bar?

In Chopin Prelude Op. 28 No. 1 (C major) has a particularly mysterious mutated note in the 12th bar shown in the red box (this note does not repeat the voice of the previous blue box): Question Is ...
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Chopin Etude Op. 10, No. 3, m. 41—left-hand note at the end of the chromatic sequence: F sharp or G?

Most editions I've found (including the first edition) have an F#, but others follow the same descending pattern up to that point and print a G. Can anybody shed some light on which note is correct? ...
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Personal / historical background regarding Chopin's Nocturne in F minor, Op. 55, No. 1

Chopin completed his Nocturne in F minor in 1843. During the time he was creating the piece, what was happening in his compositional or personal life that might influence one's interpretation of the ...
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How to highlight top note while playing triads / intervals

I am trying to learn funeral march op 35 by Chopin and the initial motive is played using some intervals in which the top note should be the melody thus should be louder then the other notes you are ...
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Can you tonicize to a chord that's not on the original key?

I had a discussion with a few people on Chopin's Nocturne in B-flat minor. We couldn't reach an agreement and I'm curious how people would analyze it. In the middle section of the piece (which is in ...
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Notation of measure 2 in Chopin's Prelude #4 in E minor

The first measure has G-B-E-B, i.e. E minor tonic chord, first inversion. Makes sense so far. Then the next measure is F♯-A-E-B followed by F♯-A-E♭-B , not so clear. According to this page the second ...
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Getting Chopin Ballade No. 1 up to tempo+keeping hands together [closed]

I am trying to learn Ballade No. 1 op. 23 by Chopin(2 as well, but that's not important to this) I have been playing for about 7 years, and I have been without a teacher for several years. My biggest ...
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What is a correct sequence of notes in Chopin Prelude in F# Minor, Op. 28 No. 8, played slowly, both hands?

What is a correct sequence of notes in Chopin's Prelude #8 when playing slowly? How should 32nds be played against a triplet of 16ths plus and 8th? It seems that there are no together played notes in ...
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Ways to play piano without tensing ones fingers

I am learning Fantasie impromptu C# minor op 66. right now, and my fingers tense up intensely near the ending of the first part before the slow transition; i.e., the place where you play all of the ...
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I can't feel anything from playing a piano piece anymore [duplicate]

I started learning the piano by the age of seven, I remember that my teacher taught me how to build an image about a piece I'm playing, I used to name the pieces myself, draw a painting for each of ...
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2 atypical cadences, are they half cadences?

So, I analyzed the harmony and structure of Grande Valse Brilliante op. 18, and most of the cadences make perfect sense to me, but there are 2 cadences that don't really, one on the tonic, which I can ...
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Horowitz' improvised run during performances of fantaisie-impromptu [closed]

I'm hoping this is the best place to ask how to play the decorated run that Horowitz improvises towards the end of the second section in his performance of Chopin's fantaisie impromptu? I can't find ...
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Help with fingering on Chopin's Nocturne op. 9 no.2 coda

I am trying to learn this nocturne and this fingering is really confusing to me. Why are three different, consecutive notes played with the same finger? Should I just "hop" from note to note,...
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Comments of Chopin's contemporaries on his playing

I am researching about the kind of style Chopin himself would have had by drawing inferences from sources such as recordings of the 2nd generation pupils of Chopin and the comments of contemporaries ...
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How would you train for Chopin's Étude op. 10 no. 2?

This Étude is really painful for the right hand. Difficulty comes from medius, ring and little fingers playing chromatic scales while thumb and index fingers punctuate. The thumb cannot be used as a ...
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Fantaisie Impromptu - Specific fingering issue

I've been practicing Chopin's Fantaisie Impromptu for several weeks now, and while I'm by no means perfect at it, there aren't any aspects or parts of the piece that I am not confident I'll be able to ...
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Why did Chopin name Etude Op. 25, No.5 the "Wrong Note"?

The piece sounds lovely, why did he name it "Wrong Note"?
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2/4 time signature, miscounting? [duplicate]

I'm trying to to practice my 2/4 time signature. Am I just making a stupid mistake with the attached image? They are 1/16th notes? so shouldn't there only be 8 of them to make up two beats and not 12? ...
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Fractional phrase length in Chopin's Nocturne Op. 62 No. 1

The main subject in Chopin's Nocturne Op. 9 No. 1 consists of two phrases that each begin with "B A# G# F# D#". However, they are not aligned relative to the barline, because it seems that ...
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Chopin's Etude Op. 25, Nr. 2

I am having a hard time to play this etude quietly when I increase the speed to full tempo. I play it fast and relaxed but still my right hand seems too loud at that speed. Especially the first two ...
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Question on rhythmic interpretation of Chopin's Prelude Op 28 No 1 : Performance differs from score?

most of the bars in this short prelude have a clear rhythmic marking: Its all sextuplets and the right hand is clearly aligned with the left as the score indicates, where the right hand melody starts ...
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Leggierissimo line

The 3rd bar on the top has a run. They're written as 8th notes, but that doesn't make any sense to me. Why are they written as 8th notes? Or does it actually rhythmically make sense?
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How to distinguish between piano music by Beethoven and Chopin?

What are some musical characteristics that can be analyzed to tell if a piece of music was written by Ludwig van Beethoven or Frédéric Chopin? Both are unmistakably present in the concert repertoire ...