Questions tagged [editions]
Questions about several published _editions_ of the same musical piece. They can have diverging sources, music, fingerings, indications, ...
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Chopin Nocturne in F minor Op. 55 No. 1 m.71 accidental and fingering
I have the Jan Ekier National Edition of Chopin's Nocturne Op.55 No.1 (first image). The second image is from a video (said to be from IMSLP). I have two questions:
The Ab and the G# in Measure 71 (...
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BWV 893, London or Altnickol version?
There are 2 versions of the B minor prelude from WTC 2, BWV 893 on IMSLP:
A. 'London version' which is in cut time.
B. 'Altnickol version' which is in 4/4, the note values diminutized proportionally, ...
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Chopin Op. 9 No. 2 Measure 24 beats
(1) In my Henle Verlag edition of Chopin's Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2, the third group of notes in Measure 24 has a single beam between the first 7 notes and the last 3 notes (see red arrow). Other editions ...
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Accidentals should apply to both clefs? Chopin Op. 9 No. 2 Measure 13 [duplicate]
It's my understanding that any accidental showing on the treble clef also applies to the bass clef unless indicated otherwise, correct?
For measure 13 of Chopin Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2, my Henle Verlag ...
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Chopin Waltz in b minor (Op. 69 No. 2) measures 13~14 different versions
I'm seeing two different versions of Chopin Op. 69 No. 2 Waltz in b minor, Measure 13-14. The one that is not urtext (or maybe is also urtext?) seems to be widely used.
My Henle Urtext book (see cover ...
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How can I verify the accuracy of music scores?
I recently encountered a puzzling issue while working on Jean Sibelius's Thirteen Pieces for Piano Op. 76 No. 2. My teacher pointed out a potential error in my music score, specifically in the ...
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K. 397 different versions
When looking for this score I see slightly different versions in terms of phrasing/slurs.
Bars 7-12 for example here
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Is the 2nd ...
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Is this note in Chopin's Nocturne Op. 9, No. 1, a Bb or an Ab?
In the original edition of Chopin's Nocturne Op. 9, No. 1, there is an Ab in bar 5 (6 if the anacrusis is counted) as the 4th note of the left hand:
However, somebody6's transcription on MuseScore ...
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Lower voice in Chopin's Nocturne Op 9 No 1 not adding up to 6/4 time signature
I wanted to learn Chopin's Nocturne Op 9 No 1. In most cases, the note values add up to the time signature of 6/4. However, in measure 6 of the right hand part, I counted the note values of the lower ...
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Did Chopin Op. 6 have four or five pieces?
On IMSLP and Wikipedia they only list four, but I found some sources that have a fifth one as well such as here and here. What is with the discrepancy?
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Mozart K331 Rondo Alla Turca m.55 discrepancy (Urtext vs Urtext?)
I have the Wiener Urtext edition of the Mozart K331 (see cover image). As you can see in the picture, the 4th note of measure 55 of the Rondo Alla Turca is A (E#FGA). However, I saw two videos where ...
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Kuhlau Op. 55 No. 2 Movement 3 Measures 79~81 discrepancy in different editions
I'm learning Kuhlau's Sonatina Op. 55 No. 2, 3rd movement. I have the book of Kuhlau sonatinas edited by Keith Snell (see pic). I also watched the score shown in this youtube video. I found they ...
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Differences in two Mozart Credo mass editions?
I want to study the orchestration of Mozart's "Credo" mass (k.257). There seem to be two editions available. One is available free on IMSLP; the other is fairly expensive to purchase. The ...
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Prokofiev, Dance of the Knights, Measure 17 [closed]
Heard Evgeny Kissin play Dance of the Knights on YouTube. Would like to purchase the version I heard. Purchased two sheet music versions, then discovered that there are many versions on the internet.
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Was Cortot right about Etude op. 10 no. 1?
I was reading through Cortot's edition of Chopin's op. 10 no. 1 etude "Waterfall" (link) and on bar 25 (page 10) he gives this note:
referring to these bars:
I was shocked to see this ...
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Why is there different Pedaling in different editions of Chopin's op 57?
In seeking the score for this piece, I came across 2 frequent editions: one that shows to use the pedal for half the bar, the other to use 2 bursts of pedal
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How is that possible that a same song is presented as 3 different scores?
How is that possible that a same song is presented as 3 different scores for piano, by the same author?
Let's consider Snow White - Whistle While You Work:
In this link we have:
In this scan, from ...
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Which publishers use editorial slurs and ties with a stroke?
A bit strange question here: have you ever encountered a slur or tie marked as editorial with short stroke in the middle (like the one that can be found e.g. in Dorico)? The thing is, I try to ...
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How did Glenn Gould know, in 1955, the proper ornamentation for Bach's "Goldberg Variations"?
This question has its origin in Why does the Open Goldberg score have a G rather than A in bar 9 of variation 25?. See that Q&A for background information.
At what time, and on what basis, was ...
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Beatles, "She's Leaving Home", Chord Question
Beatles, "She's Leaving Home", Chord Question
In the first line there's an F#m7, but when I was figuring out the chords while listening to the song, it sounds like an Amajor to me.
F#m7 - ...
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Is there a misprint on this note in the Maple Leaf Rag?
When I play bar 11, it sounds off. Compare to bar 15, you can see that the 2nd chord for the left hand is different. Is the second chord for the left hand in bar 11 a mis-print?
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Who decides chord details in published songs?
I like to make lead sheets of songs like this to learn to improvise from, condensing the published sheet music down to a single page with no turns. In working from my two copies of It's Only A Paper ...
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Spurious note in "Für Elise" (D in measure 76)?
Back in the olden days, when I walked to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways, I learned "Für Elise" out of Suzuki Piano School Volume 5. In m. 76 (third measure in the below image), ...
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Baroque ornamentation is not consistent across editions of the same piece
Here are two versions of the Quodlibet from Bach's Goldberg Variations. As you can see in the attachments, the ornaments and the recommendations as to how to play them are exactly opposite. One shows ...
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Mozart K545 Bar 36, Bass clef, last G, natural or sharp? [duplicate]
Mozart's sonata K545, Bar 36, bass clef, the urtext edition from sheetmusic2print shows a natural sign ♮ in front of the F rather than its preceding G (see picture, in red circle), why would the F ...
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Extra notes (triplets) in a Bach manuscript?
My question relates to an answer by @Peter to this earlier question Different versions of mordents in Bach Invention No. 1 In C Major, BWV 772
Here's what we usually see
However, in Peter's answer, ...
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Different versions of mordents in Bach Invention No. 1 In C Major, BWV 772
I was playing Bach Invention 1 when my sister told me that I was playing it wrong.
When I learnt this piece like 10 years ago, my sheet looked like this.
But my sister showed me her music sheet from ...
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How are editorial additions/changes to a score indicated?
How do music editors indicate changes they've made to a score?
Sometimes an editor will make musically meaningful changes to a score, such as
Adding markings the editor believes were omitted by the ...
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Acciaccatura vs Appoggiatura in Beethoven
While studying the 2nd movement of Beethoven's Sonata Op.90, I found these appoggiaturas in bars 28-29.
This is the Henle edition (which I find to be one of the most reliable editions for Beethoven); ...
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Edition for Schumann's Novelletten [closed]
I am looking for a good edition for the Novelletten Op. 21 by Schumann. I saw the Peters edition and the Henle edition. Is there a particular edition that is recommended for the Novelletten?
I am ...
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When editing/transcribing music of the Baroque period is it considered good practice to modernize key signatures and clefs?
As a hobby (and for my personal edification), it seems like a fun challenge to transcribe a few Baroque music manuscripts into a more readable form, and maybe post the results to imslp.org or ...
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How accurate is the von Bulow edition of the Beethoven piano sonatas?
I'm wondering whether or not the Hans von Bulow edition is scholarly and accurate or not.I'm aware that Liszt favored it as his students recollect that he only used that edition when teaching the ...
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2 editions of Schirmer K 545, why the difference?
I'm a bit confused. The first and third movements in the 2 editions I have of the K 545 sonata have no difference at all.
But the second movement has a difference in the development section. Both ...
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Pros and cons of Urtext edition
An Urtext edition is one that adheres as much as possible to the original composer's manuscript (or when that is lost, early editions). Of course, it is a good thing to know the score not yet ...
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Editing larger sound files in Kontakt 5
I am using NI Kontakt 5 sampler editor. And when I try to delete some unnecessary sounds, the program starts to act like it's working on the removal, but nothing happens.
This happens only with ...
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How accurate are the pedal indications of Bach - Busoni, solo piano works?
In the massive edition of Bach's solo piano works by Ferruccio Busoni with the complete name of Busoni-Ausgabe (Klavierwerke) in 25 volumes (Joh. Seb. Bach. Klavierwerke unter Mitwirkung von Egon ...
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Is this note in Für Elise an E or a D?
I've seen two notations for the note progression of Für Elise that goes "E.-C-B-A" at the end. One is "E.-C-B-A", which was the one I heard first, and the other is "D.-C-B-A", which appeared in an RCM ...
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Sibelius op .75 Number 5: is the composer a bit sloppy, is my edition a bit sloppy, or am I missing something
In my edition of this piece, there's very specific (Ped) (*) markings, which suggests to me that the composer is laying out all the pedalling.
However, a bit after the Forte/fermata in the long ...
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What kind of edition and tuning to use to study Bach's fifth cello suite ?
As is well known, this suite was composed for a cello with a scordatura tuning C-G-d-g instead of the classical C-G-d-a.
I have seen almost every possible combination:
edition for specially-tuned ...