Questions tagged [fugue]

For questions related to the formal process wherein an original subject is played imitatively in multiple voices for the remainder of the work. Most questions should also use the counterpoint tag.

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Bach's WTC Edition; Fugues with Separated Voices [closed]

I know that there is an edition of Bach's WTC, in which every voice in the fugues is written in a seperate voice. This edition makes it easier to understand and practice the polyphony in the fugues. ...
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How did counterpoint, harmonic rhythm, and thoroughbass interact in the late-Baroque instrumental fugal style?

It may be considered common knowledge that frequent root changes, i.e., a fast harmonic rhythm, usually cause a piece to be perceived as being more purely "harmonic" and less polyphonic in nature. (...
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Pedaling in Shostakovich Op. 87

I've never played any Shostakovich before, and I was curious about whether/how I should go about pedaling in his preludes and fugues from Op. 87. I'm treating the pieces like Bach, but there seems to ...
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How many voices (lines) can a fugue realistically have?

My friend and I were having this discussion and it brought upon an interesting question. My friend believes that a fugue can, in a theoretical sense, have n number of voices - which is true of course. ...
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Fingering for Bach's Toccata in E-minor BWV914

I am currently learning the Fugue of Bach's "Toccata in E-minor BWV914". My question is if I should play the first bar with the 5th finger or not. Meaning starting with "545 3423 1". I feel more ...
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Why can't a fugue begin on the mediant?

I've seen in a few places that the subject of a fugue begins on either the tonic (first degree) or dominant (fifth degree). From what I've read, the stated reason is that the answer (a transposed ...
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Should I keep the piano part “self content” when writing a trio?

I am recently writing a piano trio. At first, I treated every part (piano L, piano R, flute, cello) as independent parts of a little "orchestra" and only consider the harmony as a whole. As a result, ...
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What makes a good fugue subject?

Realization I think I might have found my weakness in fugue writing, and it is one that isn't easily helped by all the counterpoint studies that I have been doing. That is the part of the fugue that ...
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Sources for analysis of Bach fugues?

I've been working on Bach's Sonata #1 for Solo Violin (BWV 1001) and I have concluded that I would benefit from some sort of analysis of the Fugue. In particular, something that shows every point and ...
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What is the difference between a short fugue and a versette?

What is the difference between a short fugue and a versette? Short Fugue example: https://imslp.org/wiki/Ariadne_Musica_(Fischer,_Johann_Caspar_Ferdinand) Versette example: https://imslp.org/...
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Development section in a fugue

How to distinguish between the 'subject' and 'answer' in the development (modulatory) section of a fugue?
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How to turn Beethoven's fifth into a fugue?

I am composing a Theme and Variations based on the first theme of Beethoven's fifth. And one of the variations that I plan on doing is a fugal variation. I decided to write the fugal variation first, ...
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I wrote two alternate fugue expositions for one subject does either follow good harmonic conventions?

The fugue subject comes from a placement test example for the Peabody Institute... First exposition... Audio Second exposition... Audio My question are about the interplay of harmony and ...
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Will this help me avoid parallel octaves in future fugue attempts?

So, I wrote a canon before I was even thinking about writing a fugue and I found it to be trivially easy. But then again, I did take the Pachelbel approach, decide on a bass line and then make ...
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Do parts need to overlap in order to be considered as imitation?

I understand that imitation is repetition within a polyphonic texture...so my understanding is that for example, when the trumpet part repeats the string part at 0:21 in this piece by Handel ( ...
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Could this Scherzo by Beethoven be considered to be a fugue?

I have listened to the scherzo of Beethoven's Piano Sonata op. 2 no. 3 and it is very fugal in nature. It even has a fugal exposition(though it is dominant, dominant, dominant, dominant of dominant, ...
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Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor breaks the “no parallel octaves” rule?

I notice in his BWV 565, more well known as Toccata and Fugue in D minor, what looks like a lot of parallel octaves in the fugue. I have studied counterpoint before and every counterpoint resource I ...
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In Glenn Gould's “So you want to write a fugue”, what's that instrumental part?

I come from learning about fugues and encountered the seemingly famous "So you want to write a fugue" piece by Glenn Gould. In the middle, there is this instumental part: ...
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At what tempo would J.S.Bach play his fughettas?

As the title says, I'd like to know at what tempo should J.S.Bach's fughettas be played. I specifically speak about BWV 704 Fughetta: Lob sei dem allmächtigen Gott, but I believe it's applicable in ...
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If fugue voices are in different keys how come they don't clash?

I was reading how a fugue plays simultaneous voices in different keys (?) I was wondering how they don't clash with eachother. Or to put it in another way, what keys can you play together such that ...
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Countersubject strategy, is my strategy a good one? [closed]

Introduction So, I have always been kind of on and off about writing fugues. Bach keeps encouraging me to write a fugue and when I am in fugue mode, Bach is all I listen to. After all, who better to ...
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How to go about writing a second countersubject?

I have written a subject and countersubject. Here is how I went about writing the countersubject: 1st iteration: Restricted to D, G, and A(answer is is D major), all quarter notes 2nd iteration: A ...
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How to keep going in the fugue

So I decided to start over my fugue writing. I had a good subject but it was overwhelming to compose it and I forgot so much about the fugue that I am restarting it. I have been doing all these ...
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A question regarding transposition and fugal answers

Is it compulsory to introduce the answer of a fugue at +5 or -4 scale degrees relative to the home key? I'm not asking whether it's necessary to transpose the answer; my question is whether ...
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Regarding the beginning of Gould's B minor fugue, WTC 1, performance

I've listened to Gould's performance of this piece many times, sometimes following the score, and I've noticed that maybe Gould plays this piece wrong at the beginning. Unfortunately, I am unable to ...
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Key modulation in a fugue, how to not lose sight of the tonic?

Now I'm having some more trouble with my fugue. But this time it has to do with key modulation. I feel my fugue is becoming too jazzy thanks to the modulation. There are the primary modulations(from ...
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Why is writing in free counterpoint so hard? [closed]

I have had this overwhelming feeling for weeks. 1 day I even had to listen to Mozart just to go to sleep because I was feeling so overwhelmed. I have tried everything I did in the past for composer's ...
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Is 2 measures sufficient for a fugue subject?

I know what a fugue is. I also have been reading up on the form of the fugue and how to write in counterpoint. I wrote a canon and I have written a sonatina using sonata form. So theoretically a fugue ...
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How to write in counterpoint for a sonata? [closed]

So yeah, just as it sounds like, I will be composing a sonata. It will be in the style of Beethoven. The first movement will be slow and quiet mostly. Of course I will be using dissonance such as a ...
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What makes a piece a fugue?

Can anyone explain what a "fugue" is, in simple words? After listening several times to Little Fugue in G minor by J. S. Bach, it seems that same "subject" is playing from start after an interval of ...
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While playing fugues, do pianists follow each voice simultaneously?

I'm learning the piano and my teacher always says to me: "just focus on the melody, sing it in your head, and voicing and phrasing will go along", which works greatly as long as the piece is a mix of ...
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What are all the themes in the finale of Mozart's symphony 41?

I'm interested in learning more about the finale to Mozart's 41st symphony. I understand that there is a fugue with five themes, and that each of these themes are played at different times in the ...
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other “academic exercise” compositions like “Die Kunst der Fuge”?

Bach's Die Kunst der Fuge (The Art of the Fugue) was an academic exercise. Are there other compositions out there that could be described as "academic exercises"?
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Does anyone have any sources I could use to talk about who influenced Bach?

I am writing an essay about the synthesis of music theory Bach used to create his own music theory, especially in his fugal works. Any help would be appreciated, but if people could provide sources ...
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Any information on this tease of a fugue in Beethoven's Hammerklavier? [closed]

There's a passage approximately two minutes before the main fugue theme of the fourth mvt. in Beethoven's Hammerklavier op. 106; it lays out a brilliant theme for a fugue which is thereafter never ...
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Guide to Art of the Fugue?

I'm looking for a thorough, perhaps measure-by-measure, analysis of Bach's Art of the Fugue (Die Kunst der Fuge, BWV 1080). Is there a book, journal article, thesis, or dissertation which does this?
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A question about fugues

I am trying to compose a fuga for two voices. What I want to ask is, is it a requirement to be the same for the countersubjects that come after subject in exposition part? I mean, are the firstly ...
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What is the relation between the preludes and the fugues in wtc of js bach?

So I have been studying Bach's famous WTC on piano. Even though I really enjoy the preludes and fugues, and I have found some nice preludes to warm up and exercise my touch and fingers, why did Bach ...
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Can you introduce fugue themes in the middle of a measure? If so, how?

I recently wrote my first canon. Specifically it was a round. My round involved three parts. First began the soprano part. Then two measures later alto, and then two more measures later tenor. But the ...
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Switching from piano to harpsichord

I have been playing the piano for the most part of my life, but I am becoming increasingly interested in the harpsichord. Has anyone made this "transition" before? Are there some pitfalls which one ...
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How to Write A Fugue

I am having trouble composing a fugue. I would like someone competent in fugue writing or knowledgable about fugues to suggest resources I can consult to improve for the particular problems I am ...
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What does it mean to be able to write a fugue?

My theory teacher told me once in passing that she had written fugues. Later on people let me know that to write a fugue you need to be somewhat of a theory genius. Why is this so? What makes the ...
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What is imitation between two voices on an eighth note upbeat figure?

On the Wikipedia page on BWV 578, a technique devised by Corelli is mentioned. The fugue's four-and-a-half measure subject is one of Bach's most recognizable tunes. The fugue is in four voices. ...