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Can you give me feedback on an interval training game I'm building [closed]

I'm building some free web tools for musicians and one of them is an interval training game. https://guitarapp.com/chords/interval-trainer The game is at the top of the page and beneath that, there ...
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How do I use moveable solfege to play songs by ear? [duplicate]

I've been told solfege will help me play a melody by ear and have been learning about it. One thing that really confuses me, is do I approach it by using intervals to remake the song? For example when ...
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How to find the parent scale (prime form?) for a group of sibling modes?

Reminder: I know just enough theory to be really annoying. this is everything I know about it. so far. I've calculated all the possible modes and recently learned they all have names but what eludes ...
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An example of a triply diminished interval in a specific piece of music [closed]

The thought spurred from a question I had for my music theory teacher. I asked her, “can doubly diminished intervals exist without double sharps or double flats?” We hadn’t gotten into double d or A, ...
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Minor third interval in minor scales: From tonic to?

Major scales have a major third interval from the tonic of the scale to the 3rd scale degree. I would expect the same to be true in minor with a minor third interval but, for example, in the ...
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Different meanings of "third"?

Third can refer to: an interval (major or minor third) the pitch class that is one third away from the tonic the third scale degree In case of the meaning 2., the pitch class that is one third away ...
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How to do just intonation interval ear training?

I've been trying to train my ear to distinguish intervals for quite some time but I don't get very good at it. I've got a hypothesis that it's because ask the interval training programs, websites and ...
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What do the notes represent if their relationships are different in different tuning systems?

The relationship between an A and a B is different in say, just intonation and equal temprement. I understand that the absolute frequencies aren't important but instead the relative difference between ...
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Term for two notes played together only a half step apart

What is the term for two notes played on a piano that are only a half step apart, such as a C and a C# being played together?
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Perfect Pitch: Are tones recognizable by themselves or only in comparison with another tone?

Are the frequencies C4 260hz and A4 440hz actually noticeably different to someone with “perfect pitch”. I ask myself, What did they learn differently growing up to notice the difference in these ...
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How did tetrachords become whole and half steps?

How did the ancient Greek concept of tetrachords evolve into the whole- and half-step model familiar today?
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Typical pitch interval of the exclamation "uh-oh!" [closed]

When one encounters a problem, one might exclaim "uh-oh!" What is the typical pitch interval between "uh" and "oh"? The absolute pitches of "uh" and "oh&...
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What does this counterpoint rule mean?

I'm using a Musescore extension called Counterpoint Analyzer 0.4, and I am not sure what one of the warning messages refers to. Please see numbers 1 and 2 in the following: Any thoughts as to what ...
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Difference between perfect 4th and perfect 5th

I've recently been learning about interval ratios and about why some intervals are more consonant or dissonant than others. I was trying to find out about the order of intervals by consonance/...
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Are the intervals in the pentatonic scale all considered steps?

When studying non-chord tones all the definitions use steps in the diatonic sense, but what about non-chord tones in pentatonic melodies? Are melodies written in pentatonic scales considered "...
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How do I name the inversion of an augmented octave?

Say we have D flat going up an augmented octave to D natural. The inversion would be D flat adjacent to D natural, or D natural adjacent to D flat. We know that when an augmented interval is inverted, ...
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Using song for interval training or not [duplicate]

When learning the intervals, is it bad using song as a reference? I mean I wanna get as good as possible and get them on instinct rather than a song reference. It would be also be less work if can ...
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Do chord voicings matter for the intervals

If I'm playing in C Major the C Major open guitar chord and then I want to play the 5th to this chord, what chord should I play ? I know there's a rule that says "to determine interval between 2 ...
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How to distinguish two notes played harmonically [duplicate]

I have been practicing intervals for some time now. I have gotten good at recognizing ascending melodic intervals and I am currently trying to learn harmonic intervals. From my knowledge, there are 2 ...
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Can competent brass players play large leaps?

This is a passage for Horn in F in a moderato tempo (the key is 4 sharps): Though it mostly moves by step, there are several leaps, one of which is by a dissonant melodic interval (diminished third). ...
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Do difference in octaves matter for the intervals?

Should I account difference in octaves between different guitar strings, like between 5th (octave A2) string and 4th string (octave D3), when I'm looking for intervals (for example perfect 4th) ? I ...
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Usage of sharpened subdominant in minor key: what is the diatonic function?

The piece Für Elise uses a D♯ in the key of A minor in the first bar, which is the sharpened subdominant. (I'm focusing on the first part, up to halfway through bar 23 in this score.) D♯ and G♯ are ...
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Semitones vs perfect fifth

This website: https://www.musictheoryacademy.com/understanding-music/intervals/perfect-fifth/) is saying that: "A perfect fifth is an interval of 7 semitones between 2 notes." The ...
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Consonant vs. Dissonant Major Thirds: Historical Process and Significance of Tuning System

In the comments to the question Why is the fourth against the bass considered a dissonance?, I wrote A 5:4 third was considered dissonant until musical tastes changed and declared it consonant. To ...
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Why is the fourth against the bass considered a dissonance? [duplicate]

The consonance or dissonance of an interval is determined by the simplicity of the ratio between their frequencies. An octave(most consonant interval), has a ratio of 2/1, the perfect fifth has a ...
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Why are diminished fifths called tritones?

The word "tritone" basically means three whole tones. In the C major scale, we find this between F and B as F-G-A-B. This interval is also called an augmented fourth. However, a diminished ...
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Why can't we spell a diminished 3rd or an augmented 5th using only the notes in a major scale?

This might be a silly question, but why can't we spell a diminished 3rd or an augmented 5th using only the notes in a major scale? I think what I'm really confused is that, for example, A to F has 8 ...
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Historically, what is the difference between the interval qualities "perfect" and "major"? [duplicate]

So I'm trying to wrap my head around intervals. I know that, for instance, a major chord is made up by the fundamental (I), a perfect third (III) and a perfect fifth (V). So, the "important" ...
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Question on the formation of the Harmonic field in general

Given a key note, you can build up any sort of scale, for scales are just patterns of whole and half steps. The minor and major are examples. Now, if the scale is the set of notes, the harmonic field ...
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Are there optimal intervals for major and minor 3rds?

I've been reading an excellent book on the mathematics and history of scales called "The Arithmetic of Listening". Based on what I have read, I am thinking that both the 4th and 5th have an ...
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Can my scale have two whole steps of distance?

I want to create scales. I would like to do that to create the most original music as possible. Now, as a beginner, I don't see why the scales that I studied are composed just by whole steps (W) and ...
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Why was the melodic augmented second forbidden?

When voice leading in the eighteenth-century style, why is the melodic augmented second (e.g., B♮ to A♭ in the same voice) forbidden? Over the years I've heard reasons ranging from "it's awkward&...
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Functional ear training vs interval ear training for singers

Do singers use functional (scale degree) ear training method or interval ear training method to find a reference pitch from the accompaniments to start singing in key? for example, the accompaniment ...
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Formal definition of an inverted chord

Question: Is there a formal definition that would apply to all chords / genres of what an inverted chord is? Given a chord, I want to formally prove on paper (so not using my ears) that the chord is ...
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Is the tritone (diminished fifth) used in alarm sirens?

I have read claims that the tritone, due to its dissonant nature, is used for things like police, ambulance, rocket or tornado sirens. I am a beginner music theory learner and would not be able to ...
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Are diminished 5ths more dissonant than augmented 4ths?

To me when I play these intervals they sounds the same, yet in my harmony textbooks there seems to be a big difference on how these intervals are treated in voice leading. The principal difference is ...
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Problems in recognising harmonic intervals when ear training

I have started doing ear training, I've been using an App called Ear Gym. I'm doing OK, first with ascending intervals and now with descending (using the reference song method) but I'm struggling ...
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Ideal Wrist and Finger Technique for Large Interval Ostinatos

A lot of songs I play have ostinatos with riffs over large intervals and include a changing a middle note. The treble clef in the image below is a good example. I have been trying to play this with ...
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How many skips are there in this melody

The text says there are 12 skips (intervals that are larger than 2 semitones) in this folk song. I counted it several times, and I see 13 skips, not 12. It's from a highly reputed journal; and also, I'...
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Interval recognition : should I use reference songs?

I am at the beginning of my journey to learn singing. To master interval recognition, my teacher and many people recommend using reference songs (the first 2 notes of the song corresponding to the ...
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Interval visualization [closed]

I was experimenting with visualizing intervals to assist in learning them, drawing on experience with a 12 hour clock face I decided on: Do you think such a visualization is helpful for learning ...
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Interval direction

Could someone tell me the usual terminology for moving an interval up vs moving an interval down vs moving an interval distance? When we write things like 1 b3 5 we mean moving up modulus octaves, ...
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What are "apparent octaves and unisons"?

In the workbook for "Harmony and Voice Leading" (5th edition), there is an exercise on page 14 for which I need to write an accompaniment. As you can see in the instructions, octaves and ...
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Are voices that have very big pitch difference always independent and less dissonant?

Voices can be "blended" or be independent. Independent voices are very distinct, the listener can hear each voice separately. On the other hand, "blended" voices are those which ...
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What mode or scale does Hans Zimmer dwell on in Dune? [closed]

I was listening to the Dune soundtrack just now as background music, and I noticed that it felt very modal. It keeps using the following series of intervals: wholestep-halfstep-wholestep-halfstep-...
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Is there a name for the interval [1: 5/2]

I was looking at intervals here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pitch_intervals and I noticed that they are all contained in the octave [1: 2] How does one talk about something like [1: 5/2]?
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Given a four note combination under the span of a fourth, does this chart correctly show the number of times it will appear in a scale?

I have made this chart that shows how many times will a four note combination under the span of a fourth whether perfect or augmented appear in a scale and some observations, so I wanted to ask you if ...
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Given a pair of pitches, does this chart correctly show the number of scales containing that pair?

I posted this chart on my page. I created it based on exercise 6 of chapter 1 of Harmony by Piston, to be a kind of help, but as I'm not sure if it's correct or not (if it's not I will take it down to ...
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Harmony exercise, enharmonic equivalence

I'm studying from Walter Piston's book Harmony (5th Ed) so that I'm prepared before the semester starts at UNA. Exercise 6.D asks: "For each one of the following intervals, name at least two ...
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Why are tritones not consonant, confusion with the definition of a perfect fifth

A fifth is a ratio of 1.5, and 1.5 is the middle between 1 and 2. A tritone is exactly in the center of my 12 notes. Stacking two tritones leads to an octave. Adding 1 + 0.5 + 0.5 leads me to the next ...
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